ZL1 10 speed auto or 6 speed manual?

clanky · 05-11-2016, 11:26 AM

So now that we are learning more about the 10 speed wonder who all is going to choose what. My first poll to ever try and do so I might mess this up. haha

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-11-2016, 11:32 AM

I'm honestly intrigued by this 10-speed.......I'll be honest, I still want a stick...but if the auto escapes gas-guzzler tax, that about does it for me. Everything else appears to be awesome about it.

Jeffro19 · 05-11-2016, 12:46 PM

The 10spd auto looks to be a sweet trans, but I'm A manual guy and always will be.

HumanWiki · 05-11-2016, 12:55 PM

I was sold 10 speed even before this... This only makes me more sold.

mcsoul · 05-11-2016, 01:20 PM

650 hp with a manual transmission is a lot to handle for a DD on the street in my opinion. If I bought a ZL1 it would be a daily driver.

clanky · 05-11-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I'm honestly intrigued by this 10-speed.......I'll be honest, I still want a stick...but if the auto escapes gas-guzzler tax, that about does it for me. Everything else appears to be awesome about it.

Ah good point there, think the manual will get the tax? Does the 2ss have it on either model?

Degausser · 05-11-2016, 01:40 PM

Absolutely about that 10 speed!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-11-2016, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clanky

Ah good point there, think the manual will get the tax? Does the 2ss have it on either model?

Look to the CTS-V and the Z06. Both feature the LT4 engine. The CTS-V is automatic 8-speed only, and is taxed. Z06 manual is taxed, Z06 automatic....is not.

This A10 seems to be even more efficient....so my hopes are high.

chain777 · 05-11-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Look to the CTS-V and the Z06. Both feature the LT4 engine. The CTS-V is automatic 8-speed only, and is taxed. Z06 manual is taxed, Z06 automatic....is not.

This A10 seems to be even more efficient....so my hopes are high.

I know everyone is excited for the performance of this new A10, but it's still no substitute for a manual or dual-clutch on a track, unless that track is a strip. Notice just like last time with the A8, the only stat that was touted as being better than the dual-clutch is up-shifts. No mention of it beating the dual-clutch in down-shifts or paddle shifts. It's efficiency is it's best advantage over the manual or the A8 with the extra overdrive gear and lower parasitic losses. That could very well translate to avoiding the GG tax.

KLR ZL1 · 05-11-2016, 03:10 PM

I'll be ordering the a10. One it will be my daily driver and I just can't drive a standard in traffic anymore. Two it just sounds like it will be awesome if it shifts the way the vids portrait. I'll have more of a problem deciding on a color than anything else.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-11-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chain777

I know everyone is excited for the performance of this new A10, but it's still no substitute for a manual or dual-clutch on a track, unless that track is a strip. Notice just like last time with the A8, the only stat that was touted as being better than the dual-clutch is up-shifts. No mention of it beating the dual-clutch in down-shifts or paddle shifts. It's efficiency is it's best advantage over the manual or the A8 with the extra overdrive gear and lower parasitic losses. That could very well translate to avoiding the GG tax.

With respect...I've been in it. Witnessed the paddle shifts, as have several other members of the automotive press. It's astonishing how quick it is to respond to paddles. Instantaneous.

The rest of the information about overdrive and higher efficiencies is just icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

Frankly...until they become cheaper...I have no interest in a GOOD dual-clutch transmission...or the compromises that come with most of them on the street. If this new A10 can deal with the heat of a track day (the one in Nevada did), and avoids the GG tax? I'm all in.

KyleL · 05-11-2016, 03:24 PM

Id lean towards the a10, but I'd like to see some of the car reviewers to get their hands on it and read what they have to say about it, especially before buying one so far, everyone has said its been awesome

joes407 · 05-11-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by clanky

Ah good point there, think the manual will get the tax? Does the 2ss have it on either model?

Last time the auto got double on gas guzzler tax

DWALEX · 05-14-2016, 09:58 PM

A10 of course

View Poll Results: 10 speed auto or manual 6
10 speed	285	54.60%
manual 6	200	38.31%
Don't know yet and or waiting for more stat info.	37	7.09%
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05-11-2016, 11:26 AM	#1
clanky Hyper Blue 2016 Camaro 2S Drives: 16 Hyper Blue2SS NPP MagRide 6M NAV Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: east texas Posts: 655	ZL1 10 speed auto or 6 speed manual? So now that we are learning more about the 10 speed wonder who all is going to choose what. My first poll to ever try and do so I might mess this up. haha

05-11-2016, 11:32 AM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	I'm honestly intrigued by this 10-speed.......I'll be honest, I still want a stick...but if the auto escapes gas-guzzler tax, that about does it for me. Everything else appears to be awesome about it. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

05-11-2016, 12:46 PM	#3
Jeffro19 Drives: 2018 ZL1 6M, Silverado High Country Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,101	The 10spd auto looks to be a sweet trans, but I'm A manual guy and always will be. __________________ Previous Camaro's - 2002 Z28 6 spd manual, T tops, Sebring Silver - 2010 2SS 6 spd manual, Cyber Gray Metallic Current Vehicles - 2018 ZL1 Red Hot 6 spd manual, Carbon Hood, Sunroof 2019 Silverado High Country, Daily Driver

05-11-2016, 03:10 PM	#10
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,035 View My Garage	I'll be ordering the a10. One it will be my daily driver and I just can't drive a standard in traffic anymore. Two it just sounds like it will be awesome if it shifts the way the vids portrait. I'll have more of a problem deciding on a color than anything else. __________________

05-11-2016, 12:55 PM	#4
HumanWiki Drives: Car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Place Posts: 3,361	I was sold 10 speed even before this... This only makes me more sold.

05-11-2016, 01:20 PM	#5
mcsoul Drives: Want a gen 6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 75089 Posts: 1,032	650 hp with a manual transmission is a lot to handle for a DD on the street in my opinion. If I bought a ZL1 it would be a daily driver.

05-11-2016, 01:40 PM	#7
Degausser Drives: 2010 Tundra Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 44	Absolutely about that 10 speed!

05-11-2016, 03:24 PM	#12
KyleL Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 669	Id lean towards the a10, but I'd like to see some of the car reviewers to get their hands on it and read what they have to say about it, especially before buying one so far, everyone has said its been awesome __________________ 2016 Toyota 4Runner 2017 Camaro ZL1

05-14-2016, 09:58 PM	#14
DWALEX Drives: Currently 2016-2SS, Future ZL1/Z28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 978	A10 of course __________________ ...First CAMARO (2SS/RS 2010)

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