Looking ahead

DFW1LE · 12-07-2016, 07:00 AM

I see so many folks adding headers and catless exhaust systems, it makes me wonder if there are no emissions tests in your states of residence. Certainly we have them in Texas, so if a new car, you will be facing that 2 years after purchase. Are these cars running so clean that they can pass without cats? On top of that, many are doing cams that would most likely contribute to a dirty system even further. Thoughts????

EFI Tuning · 12-07-2016, 07:22 AM

In NC a new car is exempt on the emissions piece until after the 3rd year. Even at that most counties don't actually analyze the exhaust. They are just looking to see if the ECM has passed all of its emissions related tests. You can have one fail and still pass.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-07-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EFI Tuning

In NC a new car is exempt on the emissions piece until after the 3rd year. Even at that most counties don't actually analyze the exhaust. They are just looking to see if the ECM has passed all of its emissions related tests. You can have one fail and still pass.

In NY, the "emissions" test is no more complicated than plugging the car into a computer to check for any CELs, specifically emissions-related CELs. If there are none = Pass!

There is no "sniffer" test.

2K16SummitSS · 12-07-2016, 08:25 AM

Oklahoma did away with vehicle inspections years ago. You should see some of the piles of crap with wheels still somehow driving down the road. I'm ok with it until pieces of cars start falling off at me on the highway

Technically the police can still enforce compliance on exhaust, but I've not seen any that do it. The last time I was stopped in my old F-Body, the trooper and I talked headers and exhaust setups for a good 10 minutes.

DFW1LE · 12-07-2016, 08:31 AM

AFAIK, they still do sniffer tests in Texas, although we have a couple of new cars, so not sure if that has changed recently. Anyway, if you delete cats, wouldn't that trigger a CEL?

Techn9cian805 · 12-07-2016, 09:24 AM

Then you tune out the CEL. Here in Commiefornia there are mandatory smog tests every two years with sniffers. But that's not a big deal, as long as you make fast friends with a smog shop of your choice... Luckily tho, in CA you get the first 6 years of owning your new car to befriend a smog shop before being required to get checked.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-07-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DFW1LE

AFAIK, they still do sniffer tests in Texas, although we have a couple of new cars, so not sure if that has changed recently. Anyway, if you delete cats, wouldn't that trigger a CEL?

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Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

Then you tune out the CEL.

Exactly. Their equipment here does not detect (nor care) about aftermarket calibrations.

Arizona480 · 12-07-2016, 10:41 AM

Arizona (Phoenix and Tucson metro areas only) is similar to what many of you have mentioned. If your OBDII you just roll up and they check for codes, no tailpipe molesting. They also check the gas cap. Total test is like 5 min and $20. I always wondered if their equipment can tell if the car has had CEL tuned off for off-road exhaust/Long-tubes etc. When I get my Camaro I'll look into it more I guess.

Frank237 · 12-07-2016, 10:57 AM

Came from NJ , where I was born and raised. As a musclecar guy I was fortunate that a Cousin worked at the Inspection Station. I would show up at closing time, he would slap on a new sticker and I was GTG for another year. They were crazy strict on emissions, brakes, and NOISE.

Moved to Montana when I was in my 20's and was astounded by the absolute JUNK on the roads. Saw vehicles with one or no frt fenders, no hood, one or two functioning lights, etc.

Needless to say, Montana had and still has, NO inspection of any kind. Thought the State Troopers DO cite and occasionally remove from the road, the REALLY dangerous vehicles.

Dubchitts · 12-07-2016, 11:48 AM

None here in Michigan

Ecchi667 · 12-07-2016, 12:01 PM

No inspections in South Carolina. Supposedly they never sought to do such a thing because none of the school buses would pass...

I don't think Florida has inspections, either. Coming from the UK where that stuff is SUPER strict, I love the whole "if it has a title you can drive it" idea. Although I do wish that people wouldn't wait until they have a blowout to change their tyres... :/

Megahurtz · 12-07-2016, 12:46 PM

In FL we have no inspections. =P

My87z28 · 12-07-2016, 02:40 PM

In many counties of Maryland, the only inspection a car has to go through is when it is being tagged through the DMV. Meaning once you buy the car, you have it inspected (most dealerships do this before the sale) and then you never have to get it inspected again. However, law enforcement can issue you a repair order in which you may have to get the car inspected within 14 days of when the order was written.

ender2664 · 12-07-2016, 03:51 PM

I am pretty sure no matter how clean the car runs it is a federal fine if you remove cats. Law could have changed but that was how it used to be.

12-07-2016, 07:00 AM	#1
DFW1LE Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Mosiac Black Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,132	Looking ahead I see so many folks adding headers and catless exhaust systems, it makes me wonder if there are no emissions tests in your states of residence. Certainly we have them in Texas, so if a new car, you will be facing that 2 years after purchase. Are these cars running so clean that they can pass without cats? On top of that, many are doing cams that would most likely contribute to a dirty system even further. Thoughts????

12-07-2016, 08:25 AM	#4
2K16SummitSS Resident Land Surveyor Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS - Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Henryetta/Tulsa - Oklahoma Posts: 588	Oklahoma did away with vehicle inspections years ago. You should see some of the piles of crap with wheels still somehow driving down the road. I'm ok with it until pieces of cars start falling off at me on the highway Technically the police can still enforce compliance on exhaust, but I've not seen any that do it. The last time I was stopped in my old F-Body, the trooper and I talked headers and exhaust setups for a good 10 minutes. __________________ 2016 Summit 1SS 49th Anniversary Commemorative Limited Plutonium Edition - M6, Solo Axleback & !RearCats, Ultra-Rare Cloth Seats, Forgestar CF5V 19x10-285/35 19x11-325/30 2001 NBM Trans Am WS6, Wifey's Grocery Getter - Torquer V2 cam, Racetronix Fuel Pump, Yank 3000 Stall, Transgo 1-2 kit, TSP LTs, Magnaflow, Strano Springs/Koni STR.T shocks, 17x9.5/17x11 TTIIs, Ed Wright tuned

12-07-2016, 09:24 AM	#6
Techn9cian805 The BEAST Drives: '16 2SS, '89 Wife Join Date: May 2015 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	Then you tune out the CEL. Here in Commiefornia there are mandatory smog tests every two years with sniffers. But that's not a big deal, as long as you make fast friends with a smog shop of your choice... Luckily tho, in CA you get the first 6 years of owning your new car to befriend a smog shop before being required to get checked. __________________ Scarlet: 3/3/16: 2SS Red Hot, M6, Instagram: @luis_what_it_is

12-07-2016, 10:41 AM	#8
Arizona480 Drives: Future Camaro owner Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 52	Arizona (Phoenix and Tucson metro areas only) is similar to what many of you have mentioned. If your OBDII you just roll up and they check for codes, no tailpipe molesting. They also check the gas cap. Total test is like 5 min and $20. I always wondered if their equipment can tell if the car has had CEL tuned off for off-road exhaust/Long-tubes etc. When I get my Camaro I'll look into it more I guess. Last edited by Arizona480; 12-07-2016 at 11:08 AM.

12-07-2016, 02:40 PM	#13
My87z28 Drives: 1987 Z28, 385cid, '16 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 523	In many counties of Maryland, the only inspection a car has to go through is when it is being tagged through the DMV. Meaning once you buy the car, you have it inspected (most dealerships do this before the sale) and then you never have to get it inspected again. However, law enforcement can issue you a repair order in which you may have to get the car inspected within 14 days of when the order was written. __________________ 02/23/16: 1100, 03/16/16: 2500 # TGHR6N 03/16/16: 2500, 03/18/16: 3000 TPW : 4/11/16 04/8/16: built & VIN 04/11/16 - 04/28/26 : 4B00 Bayed QC hold, 04/29/16 : 4200 Rail yard '16 1SS 6M, black with jet black interior, split spoke gray machined faced wheels, and black front/rear bowtie emblems.

12-07-2016, 07:22 AM	#2
EFI Tuning Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Mount Dora, FL Posts: 792	In NC a new car is exempt on the emissions piece until after the 3rd year. Even at that most counties don't actually analyze the exhaust. They are just looking to see if the ECM has passed all of its emissions related tests. You can have one fail and still pass.

12-07-2016, 08:31 AM	#5
DFW1LE Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Mosiac Black Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,132	AFAIK, they still do sniffer tests in Texas, although we have a couple of new cars, so not sure if that has changed recently. Anyway, if you delete cats, wouldn't that trigger a CEL?

12-07-2016, 10:57 AM	#9
Frank237 Drives: Kubota 2640, 83 BMW R-65, 2017 1 SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Craig, MT Posts: 643	Came from NJ , where I was born and raised. As a musclecar guy I was fortunate that a Cousin worked at the Inspection Station. I would show up at closing time, he would slap on a new sticker and I was GTG for another year. They were crazy strict on emissions, brakes, and NOISE. Moved to Montana when I was in my 20's and was astounded by the absolute JUNK on the roads. Saw vehicles with one or no frt fenders, no hood, one or two functioning lights, etc. Needless to say, Montana had and still has, NO inspection of any kind. Thought the State Troopers DO cite and occasionally remove from the road, the REALLY dangerous vehicles.

12-07-2016, 11:48 AM	#10
Dubchitts Drives: '17 Red hot 2ss, 16 Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 845 View My Garage	None here in Michigan

12-07-2016, 12:01 PM	#11
Ecchi667 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, 6spd M Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 326 View My Garage	No inspections in South Carolina. Supposedly they never sought to do such a thing because none of the school buses would pass... I don't think Florida has inspections, either. Coming from the UK where that stuff is SUPER strict, I love the whole "if it has a title you can drive it" idea. Although I do wish that people wouldn't wait until they have a blowout to change their tyres... :/

12-07-2016, 12:46 PM	#12
Megahurtz Snackbar Tuning Drives: 2023 SGM ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 1,118	In FL we have no inspections. =P

12-07-2016, 03:51 PM	#14
ender2664 Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palm Desert Posts: 2,353	I am pretty sure no matter how clean the car runs it is a federal fine if you remove cats. Law could have changed but that was how it used to be.

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