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75rusty · 01-14-2010, 04:55 PM

Ever since I installed my Hurst I have experienced a grind (sometimes more violent than others) when I try and do a quick 1-2 shift. Never had this before with the stock shifter.

Anyone else? I'm a little concerned about warranty coverage because of the Hurst...

ffrcobra_65 · 01-14-2010, 07:01 PM

Did you install the shifter yourself? If the grinding problem did not occur with the stock shifter and it started happening RIGHT AFTER you installed the hurst shifter, then somehow, the installation was not 100% correct.

But if you installed the Hurst shifter and it worked fine, and you have been driving with it and all was well then weeks went by and the grinding started, I would doubt you can blame the shifter for that. Probably a synchro has gone bad.

75rusty · 01-15-2010, 12:29 PM

Yes, I did do the install myself. It's pretty much a no brainer, not really sure what I could have possibly done wrong.

This is only while doing a more spirited shift, normal driving has always been just fine.

subzero05 · 01-15-2010, 12:46 PM

thats not the shifter. Its something in the trans.

ffrcobra_65 · 01-15-2010, 01:47 PM

Yeah, it is a no brainer but even the best makes a mistake or goofs up an easy install sometimes or something comes undone after the install. Did you check the bottom boot again to make sure it is still secure? Is it actual metal grinding you are hearing ir is it a really rapid rattle from the shifter? If tranny grinding, the shifter would be the unlikely cause. If you hear/feel the shifter rattling during spirited driving, that is normal for some cars after Hurst shifter installation and can be cured with some dynamat.
Good luck, I hope you find the problem.

75rusty · 01-16-2010, 12:39 PM

It's not the shifter "buzz" at all.

Get to call my dealer and see whats up...

racer50200 · 02-11-2010, 04:47 AM

Rusty

Did you ever get this resolved? Was the dealer concerned with the aftermarket shifter??

DarricSS · 02-11-2010, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75rusty

Yes, I did do the install myself. It's pretty much a no brainer, not really sure what I could have possibly done wrong.

This is only while doing a more spirited shift, normal driving has always been just fine.

Just a wild guess, but it sounds like the "skip shift" feature is not disengaging fast enough because of the faster shifting...

Driving slow around corners at intersections i have hit the "gate" on the skip shift, kinda felt a bit of a grind like i "just" cleared as it allowed me to get to second gear at around 20-21 mph or so...driving easy i usually shift from first around 23mph or around 3200 rpm to avoid that stupid "feature" yes i know there are eliminators for that...

ckaram · 02-12-2010, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarricSS

Just a wild guess, but it sounds like the "skip shift" feature is not disengaging fast enough because of the faster shifting...

Driving slow around corners at intersections i have hit the "gate" on the skip shift, kinda felt a bit of a grind like i "just" cleared as it allowed me to get to second gear at around 20-21 mph or so...driving easy i usually shift from first around 23mph or around 3200 rpm to avoid that stupid "feature" yes i know there are eliminators for that...

OP's driving a V6, so no skip shift.

75rusty · 02-19-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by racer50200

Rusty

Did you ever get this resolved? Was the dealer concerned with the aftermarket shifter??

Honestly, I haven't done anything about it yet. With my wife on deployment and 2 kids, I don't have much time to sort it out. Not to mention my dealer is about 30miles from me.

jnm2003 · 03-15-2010, 10:50 PM

I got a stock shifter in my SS. Mine seems to have problems goin into second gear like that. sometime first even at a dead stop! If i play around with the shifter at a stop and go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd back to 2nd and then 1st (just an example) it will semi work smootly. there is not really any noise just feels like a hesitation and no smooth shift! When racing it makes me have to granny shift to avoid it not going into 2nd. yes i have the skip shift eliminator. I dont know why it does it. 1st and 2nd mainly. 3rd - 6th always feel smooth!!

rcracer78 · 05-10-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jnm2003

I got a stock shifter in my SS. Mine seems to have problems goin into second gear like that. sometime first even at a dead stop! If i play around with the shifter at a stop and go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd back to 2nd and then 1st (just an example) it will semi work smootly. there is not really any noise just feels like a hesitation and no smooth shift! When racing it makes me have to granny shift to avoid it not going into 2nd. yes i have the skip shift eliminator. I dont know why it does it. 1st and 2nd mainly. 3rd - 6th always feel smooth!!

I am having this same problem going from 1st to 2nd as well. (2nd through 6th gear is very smooth) It only does it during "spirited" shifting. Also, shifting is very notchy and hard to shift when cold, especially from 1st to 2nd....almost impossible. Does the clutch need to be bled? Is it a bad synchros? Does the gear oil need to be changed? I really need to get the car into the dealer because driving the car this way is becoming not so enjoyable anymore. :(

SpeedySoldier · 05-12-2010, 08:35 PM

I have this same issue, every time I drive aggressively and try a hard shift I miss second, it feels like skip shift is locking it out, I hope someone pipes up with a fix for this or my stocker is going back in, and I have been driving the hurst for 4 months now and it has gotten no better

rcracer78 · 05-13-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedySoldier

I have this same issue, every time I drive aggressively and try a hard shift I miss second, it feels like skip shift is locking it out, I hope someone pipes up with a fix for this or my stocker is going back in, and I have been driving the hurst for 4 months now and it has gotten no better

Yeah...I took my Hurst out. There was nothing wrong with the Hurst but it didn't give me enough leverage to deal with this notchy Tremec. It almost feels like the clutch isn't coming off the flywheel enough. It's so hard for me to find time to make it to the dealer, but I will try sometime this month. I also have to get the squeaky seat tsb taking care of as well.

I'd be interested to see a poll of LS3 owner with this shifting problem.

01-14-2010, 04:55 PM	#1
75rusty awesome! Drives: 07 Jetta WB, '92 GTI 16vT, '76 LUV Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 117	AY6 grind, 1st to 2nd... Ever since I installed my Hurst I have experienced a grind (sometimes more violent than others) when I try and do a quick 1-2 shift. Never had this before with the stock shifter. Anyone else? I'm a little concerned about warranty coverage because of the Hurst...

02-11-2010, 04:47 AM	#7
racer50200 Drives: 2010 White 2SS/RS Camaro 6M Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 125 View My Garage	Rusty Did you ever get this resolved? Was the dealer concerned with the aftermarket shifter?? __________________ Camaro Specs: 2010 2SS/RS SW, 6M, Eibach Spings / bars, 275's X 4, Heritage Grill, NLP spoiler, Becky's SW shark fin, AAC LED DRL's, Stainless Works Headers and exhaust, Barton Flat Stick Shifter, '69 SS emblems, ready for hp boost..... Help your country.... Buy American Products!!

03-15-2010, 10:50 PM	#11
jnm2003 Drives: O2 GMC & 2010 camaro SS IBM 6M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: US Posts: 257	I got a stock shifter in my SS. Mine seems to have problems goin into second gear like that. sometime first even at a dead stop! If i play around with the shifter at a stop and go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd back to 2nd and then 1st (just an example) it will semi work smootly. there is not really any noise just feels like a hesitation and no smooth shift! When racing it makes me have to granny shift to avoid it not going into 2nd. yes i have the skip shift eliminator. I dont know why it does it. 1st and 2nd mainly. 3rd - 6th always feel smooth!! __________________ 2010 camaro SS/RS Manual IBM. NEW TIME 12.24 @ 114 mph. -[B] street tires, Hurst short throw, Halltech yellow jacket intake, AR long tube 1 7/8 headers, and a tune. 12.82 @ 110 MPH 1.92 60ft ALMOST Bone Stock ONLY MOD IS Borla mufflers.

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01-14-2010, 07:01 PM	#2
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	Did you install the shifter yourself? If the grinding problem did not occur with the stock shifter and it started happening RIGHT AFTER you installed the hurst shifter, then somehow, the installation was not 100% correct. But if you installed the Hurst shifter and it worked fine, and you have been driving with it and all was well then weeks went by and the grinding started, I would doubt you can blame the shifter for that. Probably a synchro has gone bad.

01-15-2010, 12:29 PM	#3
75rusty awesome! Drives: 07 Jetta WB, '92 GTI 16vT, '76 LUV Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 117	Yes, I did do the install myself. It's pretty much a no brainer, not really sure what I could have possibly done wrong. This is only while doing a more spirited shift, normal driving has always been just fine.

01-15-2010, 12:46 PM	#4
subzero05 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 tbd Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california Posts: 647	thats not the shifter. Its something in the trans.

01-15-2010, 01:47 PM	#5
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	Yeah, it is a no brainer but even the best makes a mistake or goofs up an easy install sometimes or something comes undone after the install. Did you check the bottom boot again to make sure it is still secure? Is it actual metal grinding you are hearing ir is it a really rapid rattle from the shifter? If tranny grinding, the shifter would be the unlikely cause. If you hear/feel the shifter rattling during spirited driving, that is normal for some cars after Hurst shifter installation and can be cured with some dynamat. Good luck, I hope you find the problem.

01-16-2010, 12:39 PM	#6
75rusty awesome! Drives: 07 Jetta WB, '92 GTI 16vT, '76 LUV Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 117	It's not the shifter "buzz" at all. Get to call my dealer and see whats up...

05-12-2010, 08:35 PM	#13
SpeedySoldier Drives: 97 z28, 03 s10-zr2 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 178	I have this same issue, every time I drive aggressively and try a hard shift I miss second, it feels like skip shift is locking it out, I hope someone pipes up with a fix for this or my stocker is going back in, and I have been driving the hurst for 4 months now and it has gotten no better