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Rock-It Man · 06-12-2023, 05:00 PM

My 2010 2SS A6 is going bye bye. It has been fun.

But not to worry! It's being replaced by a 2023 ZL1 A10!

See you on the Camaro6.com side soon.

Moto-Mojo · 06-12-2023, 05:45 PM

Did I just see a '23 ZL1 listed for $90K?

Here's a bargain with only 2600 miles. WTF is GM and Ford smoking? A >V6< Bronco Raptor is $105K. NO Thanks, Joe and your inflation. Sorry, not my cup 'O tea. But enjoy it!
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FasNuf · 06-12-2023, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

My 2010 2SS A6 is going bye bye. It has been fun.

But not to worry! It's being replaced by a 2023 ZL1 A10!

See you on the Camaro6.com side soon.

Way to trade up! Congratulations

Eddymel1998 · 06-12-2023, 06:32 PM

Yeah car prices were not the best as is and all the covid stuff sent it over the edge, I still get teary eyed reading about sport trucks in the 90s and early 2000s for less then a cheap car today. On the other hand now might be the last chance to buy a brand new Camaro before Chevy retires it for time being, might even be the last time you can buy a Camaro with a gasoline engine in it which is sad.

Rock-It Man · 06-12-2023, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FasNuf

Way to trade up! Congratulations

There's the standard picture from the dealer right after the car was unloaded, but you'll have to wait until it's snug as a bug in my garage, hopefully on Wednesday.

xstuntman · 06-12-2023, 07:48 PM

Congrats!

I simply can't justify that kind of money for a toy or insurance for said toy, but I would certainly love to watch you roast those tires.

Blue 13 · 06-12-2023, 08:07 PM

Congrats.

I was at a crossroads 2 years ago. Get a 2021 ZL1 convertible or continue building the 2013 SS convertible. I decided with what I had in the SS already it made more sense to keep going than start over. I’m just under 1000hp motor currently (810-ish rwhp) and it’s a solid 10 second car. I wish you the best with her.

JLSuperfly · 06-12-2023, 08:47 PM

I gave my Camaro to my brother.
I got a '17 C7 Corvette Z51 with only 5k miles from my super duper uncle.

Danial · 06-12-2023, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

I gave my Camaro to my brother.
I got a '17 C7 Corvette Z51 with only 5k miles from my super duper uncle.

I so want a C7. They can throw the C8 abominations into the sea, but that C7 is sexy as hell.

sengli · 06-13-2023, 08:19 AM

The only thing I can say is the sheet metal is paper thin. Lotsa fun though.

Moto-Mojo · 06-13-2023, 09:14 AM

I'm just saying that the dollar has had a cumulative inflation rate of about 132% since 1991 when the most expensive Z/28 Camaro was about $20,000. But a new ZL1 - assuming it's the modern version of that elder Z/28* is trading at over a 300% inflation increase. WELL beyond the simple dollar. That's just not an increase most people's budget can absorb. Like so many things now, it's a departure from reality, in my opinion.

*different animal but still a representative sampling of similar models by GM. In fact, the ZL1 would probably be considered a step down from a Z/28 if a 2023 version were available. (using a 2015 as an example)

MSgt O · 06-13-2023, 09:23 AM

and the pricing index companies have been using to set prices have climbed to whatever they know people will pay...and credit has been easy access for people who really cant afford to pay it back in the short term...its not inflation, its corporate greed.

Blue 13 · 06-13-2023, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MSgt O

and the pricing index companies have been using to set prices have climbed to whatever they know people will pay...and credit has been easy access for people who really cant afford to pay it back in the short term...its not inflation, its corporate greed.

If people won’t pay it the prices come down. These idiots paying 30% APR for 84 months for their Hellcat are an example of personal responsibility. Inflation is certainly not helping, but there are still more buyers than vehicles as one dealer near me has every truck on its lot at $5k over MSRP and is getting it. I paid under sticker for my 24 GMC 2500HD AT4 which is unheard of.

Moto-Mojo · 06-13-2023, 10:35 AM

Obviously, there are sectors of the workforce that are booming. My business has absolutely tanked this year. There is no way, all things taken into consideration, that I could entertain even buying a decent used vehicle this year. But I need to.

But if 2023 has turned into a, "wait-and-see economic year" for new business, what is a contentious election year next year going to bring, 500% increases in vehicle prices from 1991? It doesn't make good sense.

06-12-2023, 05:00 PM	#1
Rock-It Man 376 cubic inches of fun Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MA Posts: 4,033 View My Garage	Bye bye Gen5, hello Gen6 My 2010 2SS A6 is going bye bye. It has been fun. But not to worry! It's being replaced by a 2023 ZL1 A10! See you on the Camaro6.com side soon.

06-12-2023, 05:45 PM	#2
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	Did I just see a '23 ZL1 listed for $90K? Here's a bargain with only 2600 miles. WTF is GM and Ford smoking? A >V6< Bronco Raptor is $105K. NO Thanks, Joe and your inflation. Sorry, not my cup 'O tea. But enjoy it! __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx Last edited by Moto-Mojo; 06-12-2023 at 06:11 PM.

06-12-2023, 06:32 PM	#4
Eddymel1998 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 460	Yeah car prices were not the best as is and all the covid stuff sent it over the edge, I still get teary eyed reading about sport trucks in the 90s and early 2000s for less then a cheap car today. On the other hand now might be the last chance to buy a brand new Camaro before Chevy retires it for time being, might even be the last time you can buy a Camaro with a gasoline engine in it which is sad. __________________ Behind every scratch is a story on what not to do, and my car has a lot of stories.

06-12-2023, 07:48 PM	#6
xstuntman Drives: 2012 Victory Red LFX Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: west central Texas Posts: 1,310	Congrats! I simply can't justify that kind of money for a toy or insurance for said toy, but I would certainly love to watch you roast those tires. __________________ 2018 SS wheels, red Heritage grille, actual driving lights, ZL1 strut tower brace, GM Performance billet aluminum fuel door, front grille Bowtie delete, painted red rotors and calipers, 1/4 window American Flags, splash guards, AEM dry panel air filter.

06-13-2023, 08:19 AM	#10
sengli Drives: 2015commemorative vert 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: northern Indiana Posts: 948	The only thing I can say is the sheet metal is paper thin. Lotsa fun though. Attached Images __________________ 2018 ZL1 Bright Yellow, A10, PDR, sunroof, carbon hood, and dash- sold 2020 2SS A10 sunroof..shock and steel special-traded 2015 commemorative vert 2ss

06-12-2023, 08:07 PM	#7
Blue 13 3P171 USAF Combat Arms Drives: 2013 SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Olmsted AFB Posts: 264	Congrats. I was at a crossroads 2 years ago. Get a 2021 ZL1 convertible or continue building the 2013 SS convertible. I decided with what I had in the SS already it made more sense to keep going than start over. I’m just under 1000hp motor currently (810-ish rwhp) and it’s a solid 10 second car. I wish you the best with her.

06-12-2023, 08:47 PM	#8
JLSuperfly Drives: 2014 Red Hot LS3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,266	I gave my Camaro to my brother. I got a '17 C7 Corvette Z51 with only 5k miles from my super duper uncle.

06-13-2023, 09:14 AM	#11
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	I'm just saying that the dollar has had a cumulative inflation rate of about 132% since 1991 when the most expensive Z/28 Camaro was about $20,000. But a new ZL1 - assuming it's the modern version of that elder Z/28* is trading at over a 300% inflation increase. WELL beyond the simple dollar. That's just not an increase most people's budget can absorb. Like so many things now, it's a departure from reality, in my opinion. different animal but still a representative sampling of similar models by GM. In fact, the ZL1 would probably be considered a step down from a Z/28 if a 2023 version were available. (using a 2015 as an example) __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx Last edited by Moto-Mojo; 06-13-2023 at 09:39 AM.*

06-13-2023, 09:23 AM	#12
MSgt O Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Vert LS3/M6 Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Cheboygan, Michigan Posts: 660	and the pricing index companies have been using to set prices have climbed to whatever they know people will pay...and credit has been easy access for people who really cant afford to pay it back in the short term...its not inflation, its corporate greed.

06-13-2023, 10:35 AM	#14
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,974	Obviously, there are sectors of the workforce that are booming. My business has absolutely tanked this year. There is no way, all things taken into consideration, that I could entertain even buying a decent used vehicle this year. But I need to. But if 2023 has turned into a, "wait-and-see economic year" for new business, what is a contentious election year next year going to bring, 500% increases in vehicle prices from 1991? It doesn't make good sense. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx