New low side in tank solution is out!

swisstyphoon · 03-18-2023, 09:38 AM

Deatschwerks just anounced their dual in tank low side system.
What are your thoughts?

Z OH 6 · 03-18-2023, 10:41 AM

Sounds promising if the high side wasn't the greater limitation.

GreenZLE · 03-18-2023, 12:34 PM

I like it!

Joshinator99 · 03-18-2023, 12:43 PM

How is this any better than Fore which has been out for years…? Honest question. And the Fore system gives you triple pump option. Low side is rock solid now.

laynlo15 · 03-18-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

How is this any better than Fore which has been out for years…? Honest question. And the Fore system gives you triple pump option. Low side is rock solid now.

Hopefully it's cheaper but does sound great at @999.00 for the kit. I think that's half of Fore or close

Joshinator99 · 03-18-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

Hopefully it's cheaper but does sound great at @999.00 for the kit. I think that's half of Fore or close

I doubt that $999 comes with the materials needed to do a real return setup…? Agreed that the Fore kit is a good bit more expensive but it comes with all the major hardware to do it right.

laynlo15 · 03-18-2023, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

I doubt that $999 comes with the materials needed to do a real return setup…? Agreed that the Fore kit is a good bit more expensive but it comes with all the major hardware to do it right.

Guess I didn't realize it had to have a return line.

GreenZLE · 03-18-2023, 03:38 PM

This retains the OEM bucket.

Joshinator99 · 03-18-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenZLE

This retains the OEM bucket.

Ok, so probably a good solution for the road course guys.

Joshinator99 · 03-18-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

Guess I didn't realize it had to have a return line.

I’m assuming that will depend on HP and E% goals? Not sure where the factory fuel line becomes a restriction. But 1000+ on E would likely require an upgrade I’d guess. I went with the -10 AN supply/-8 AN return so don’t think I’m having an issue there anytime soon lol!

swisstyphoon · 03-18-2023, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenZLE

This retains the OEM bucket.

That is the part I like the most about it.
The description says it retains the OEM bucket, no fuel pickup issues below 1/8 of a tank like others...

https://deatschwerks.com/blogs/news/...6th-gen-camaro

Joshinator99 · 03-18-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swisstyphoon

That is the part I like the most about it.
The description says it retains the OEM bucket, no fuel pickup issues below 1/8 of a tank like others...

https://deatschwerks.com/blogs/news/...6th-gen-camaro

You shouldn’t drive the car hard with a low tank level regardless of the pump. The fuel helps cool the pump…

I’ve been without the OEM bucket for a few years now with no issues, but I’d never drive the car hard with less than 1/4 tank anyway.

I’m sure I’d feel differently if I wanted to road course the car.

But a fellow board member just put in a piece of fuel cell foam in his tank and he’s able to track his car with the Fore setup FWIW.

laynlo15 · 03-19-2023, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

I’m assuming that will depend on HP and E% goals? Not sure where the factory fuel line becomes a restriction. But 1000+ on E would likely require an upgrade I’d guess. I went with the -10 AN supply/-8 AN return so don’t think I’m having an issue there anytime soon lol!

But for me staying at 700 to 750 that fuel line wouldn't be an issue.

Evansa22 · 03-19-2023, 05:34 PM

There was a discussion a little while back in the forced induction section about similar pumps.

There's also this one which is plug and play. Nice medium between fore double/triple or stock.
https://www.ogfuelsolutions.com/prod...4Uv8nJ0DRIU3tw

Smg speed also makes one but their website isn't working for me. Katech has been teasing a new lowside solution coming within a month or so.
These seem to be better for those wanting a simple drop in solution with not as much potential as the fore or these systems.

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Joshinator99 Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Petersham MA Posts: 4,760	How is this any better than Fore which has been out for years…? Honest question. And the Fore system gives you triple pump option. Low side is rock solid now. __________________ 2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors, LPE BB HPFP, 15” conversion *1059 WHP/944 WTQ, 9.48@150*

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Evansa22 Drives: HBM ZLE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: In the garage Posts: 804	There was a discussion a little while back in the forced induction section about similar pumps. There's also this one which is plug and play. Nice medium between fore double/triple or stock. https://www.ogfuelsolutions.com/prod...4Uv8nJ0DRIU3tw Smg speed also makes one but their website isn't working for me. Katech has been teasing a new lowside solution coming within a month or so. These seem to be better for those wanting a simple drop in solution with not as much potential as the fore or these systems. Attached Images

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Z OH 6 Drives: 2021 Red Hot ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gapplebees Posts: 3,092	Sounds promising if the high side wasn't the greater limitation.

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GreenZLE Drives: 2020 Rally Green ZL1-1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: Illinois Posts: 325	I like it!

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GreenZLE Drives: 2020 Rally Green ZL1-1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: Illinois Posts: 325	This retains the OEM bucket.

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