[DrkPhx]

I'm fine with a V8 hybrid, in fact I would love to see an AWD version.

[Rock-It Man]

Originally Posted by ninetres

No hybrid bullshit. DCT please.

And TT DOHC would be icing on the cake! It’s a Camaro not a Prius.

Some supercars and all F1 race cars are hybrid.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Risky Justice

About time they killed the V6. With the 4 turbo, that engine has become completely irrelevant. I’m all for a hybrid V8 though! If they can find a way to get the electric motors to power the front wheels, without going midengine, then that would be incredible.

The V6 is a much more viable engine combo than a crappy 4 banger turbo

[GP86]

Boo! They would not let me continue because I correctly indicated that I work for an automotive supplier. :( That is super, super lame.

I am all for hybrid options!

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by 18LTLoveIt

Hi,

I got an email from GM on my new car purchase, specific to engine choices. It was a survey and when it got to the engine choices there were 2 4 cylinder options and 3 8 cylinder options. I chose none of the above and the next screen asked me why. I stated, "V6 minimum, preferred". For my survey to matter I shaved 11 yrs off my age.

My hunch was right, Chevy wants to copy Ford & Honda ditching the V6 for 2018 is making them seriously considering dropping V6 Level.

It's a known fact that 4 cylinders have to work harder. Yes, they are more efficient, but if you want to keep a car 8-10 yrs a V6 is better in the long run.

Absolutly, they must keep the ever so sweet 335 horse V6

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Absolutly, they must keep the ever so sweet 335 horse V6

Agreed the 6 is fantastic and it sounds good and it's good on gas why kill such a good thing

[nighttowl]

Originally Posted by MrRuss

NA 4's maybe but the newest generation of turbo 4's are quite powerful. My wife drives a "18 Mazda CX-9, > 6K lbs, 3-row, mid-size SUV with a 2.5 Turbo 4.

Mazda CX9 weighs 4200 lbs.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by 90503

This survey is a new twist....Asking about something they likely have already decided on years ago...lol...Gee, we are just so "involved"....a new type of "focus group" perhaps?


No matter how lousy things turn out, it will be because they asked and listened to customers...Yeah, right...Nobody wanted big V-8s anymore...just look at the survey!...Oh well, it's a fun futile exercise for a meaningless issue....


The dies were already cast years ago....They already have the data from what engine choices customers have already made from what is available now, yet they have no clue what future sales might be?....Ok....got it.


Sorry, but it seems like a lame attempt at some sort of customer impact....Good PR, I suppose, but likely geared to what they are going to do anyhow.

Not new at all. I’ve seen a ton of these during my last several years at GM. Even participated in putting together some of the “test parameters”. Hint...not all the displacement - power - fuel economy combinations are actual. Some are intentionally tilted to gauge at what point individual attributes become important. And it is possible to field multiple surveys with slightly different parameters simulataneously.

[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by Wierd Harold

Note the automatic stop start in the spec sheet- no thank you

Chevy will offer a button / knob to turn it off for the 2019 Cruze. They better have the same for the Camaro.

[cooper1965]

This is exactly why 5 months ago, I did something I never thought I would do...
I bought a 4cylinder Camaro.
The times have changed. Now is the time to get ahead of the curve.
Small displacement/hybrid is the future.....

[90503]

They've probably sold more than twice as many V-6 Camaros since 2010 than all the other available power plants combined....Then put out a preference questionnaire to existing owners that doesn't even include the most popular power plant to date as a choice in the future. They must be really starved for data that fits their plans....lol...

[DrkPhx]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Not new at all. I’ve seen a ton of these during my last several years at GM. Even participated in putting together some of the “test parameters”. Hint...not all the displacement - power - fuel economy combinations are actual. Some are intentionally tilted to gauge at what point individual attributes become important. And it is possible to field multiple surveys with slightly different parameters simulataneously.

Very true. I took part in countless surveys as a member of the GM Owners Advisory panel over the years and it was clear how they tilted the surveys.

[GrimReaperSS]

Another reasoning for T4 replacing V6 is the amount of torque they output. As found with Mr. Russ's Mazda CX-9, that 2.5 T4 makes 350 lb/ft (provided you're using premium fuel). Same as the new GM 2.7 T4 in the truck making 348 lb/ft. Now, both of these are meant for SUV/Truck applications, so in a performance car those number will change. Even the Mustang and Focus RS make mid-300 tq and thats what most drivers actually feel in a street car. Most people cannot actually have enough road to stretch the legs on engines where the HP can take over.

[7speed]

Originally Posted by MrRuss

NA 4's maybe but the newest generation of turbo 4's are quite powerful. My wife drives a "18 Mazda CX-9, > 6K lbs, 3-row, mid-size SUV with a 2.5 Turbo 4. That thing hauls a$$, not like my SS but unexpectedly quick. We drove a Pilot and Highlander and it felt quicker to me.

It's actually her second one, we got the first new model in 2016 but it was totaled in an accident. We liked it so much we promptly got another one, same trim, color, etc...

I like the Cx9 as much as the next person but 7secs to 60mph isnt fast. Pilot is a sec faster so you need to recalibrate that butt dyno.