[Rayvan]

Originally Posted by 1LEornothing

The plate sounds like a good idea, I don't road course, just friendly Mexico runs and the occasional 1/8th or 1/4 mile event. I was thinking of eventually throwing the factory suitcase back on when the warranty expires so I can throw some catless long tube headers on the car. Truthfully, I removed the suitcase because axlebacks and catbacks are outrageously priced for this car compared to every performance car I have had. A $100 muffler delete and a 35 lbs weight reduction was a no-brainer. For my uses, I have not experienced any adverse effects.

I don't remember if it was here, but there's a guy who runs in the mid nines, Justin Keith, I think. He said that the car lost 3 mph without the muffler in-place. Can't find that thread. May have been another forum.

Some other threads from his forum on this:

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...case+parachute

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...al+effect+aero

[Village Idiot]

If the suitcase prevents drag, would aftermarket mufflers cause more also? Since they typically use the two separate mufflers on each side instead of going across?

[LT1ornothing]

Another thing is, you 1LE and ZLE guys have much more downforce from the factory. Add to that a "parachute" in the form of a factory muffler delete, and now you exacerbate the downforce+drag dilemma. Us LT1 guys have a much lower drag coefficient and much less downforce, so the parachuting effect of the suitcase delete is less apparent when compared to the 1LE and ZLE trims with all their extra downforce.

[LT1ornothing]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

If the suitcase prevents drag, would aftermarket mufflers cause more also? Since they typically use the two separate mufflers on each side instead of going across?

Yes, I would imagine so, and the more downforce of the trim you own, the more the the suitcase delete slows you.

[wheelspeed]

I don't understand this suitcase thing... How could you not be able to just bend up a sheet of tin to negate any effects of the shape of the 'suitcase' having been removed?

I mean, good comments that people shared so that others are aware, but most comments were spoken like it was an insurmountable problem of removing the suitcase and you just had to put it back on. It doesn't seem like it'd be hard to fix any aero problems of removing the suitcase.

[kropscamaro16]

just got my car corner balanced and weighed over the weekend 3623lbs with 3/4 tank of gas

[khcoaching]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

just got my car corner balanced and weighed over the weekend 3623lbs with 3/4 tank of gas

Thanks for posting, pretty big correction.

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by khcoaching

Thanks for posting, pretty big correction.

yup pretty crazy i thought it would be lighter than that but oh well next goal is to get it under 3600 but its still a PIG lol

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

just got my car corner balanced and weighed over the weekend 3623lbs with 3/4 tank of gas

What all do you have removed? I’d really like to get mine mid 3,500lb but I don’t want to lose too many creature comforts.

[khcoaching]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

yup pretty crazy i thought it would be lighter than that but oh well next goal is to get it under 3600 but its still a PIG lol

Mid 3500s would be fantastic and I think a reasonable goal.

Ken

[kropscamaro16]

aftermarket seat lightweight battery lighter wheels full spl parts suspension kit aftermarket coilovers rear seat delete etc...

[DeltaEliteMan]

(Even though this would not be cost effective for the weight you'd save)
If money were no object, would it be possible to replace the larger suspension bolts with titanium bolts & nuts?
If so, would there be any issues with using titanium bolts in this application (i.e. loosening, dis-similar metals touching causing corrosion, pre-mature wear)?

*I wonder how much weight would be saved if ALL bolts and nuts on the car were replaced with titanium?

[kropscamaro16]

i heard spl parts actually uses titanium bolts in their kits so maybe some of my parts already have them haha



i know ive seen the lugnuts and they are superlight but $$$


https://zl1addons.com/products/lug-nuts-titanium

[Timbo-1LE]

Katech lug nuts are cheaper and work well (I have used them 2 years). Like holding potato chip's, they are really light...