[Blackdevil77]

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by JBones81

Not to change the subject, but is your 11.21 et normal for a zl1 with similar mods? It seems slow to me, especially considering the 131 trap, but Im just learning about zl1s now

I bet it's all in the 60-foot (and thus likely tires/track prep).

[JBones81]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I bet it's all in the 60-foot (and thus likely tires/track prep).

Ok, that could be. I'm going off of all the RS3s at my stage who are running 10.8s at @128ish. So having the extra MPH of the zl1 with the slower et seemed off. But then again the zl1 weighs 600lbs more and doesnt have awd. Who knows

[MatthewAMEL]

Originally Posted by kd7895

If you want to see a video from Orlando Speedworld, please send me an email or your email address. There was a race in October I believe where I to my car and we ended up racing. I not sure if the Blackwing was AWD, but it launched like it.

None of the Blackwings are AWD. You can get an AWD CT5-V, but that's only a TT 6-cyl.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by Snowwolfe

Bone stock CT5 V Blackwing
https://youtu.be/VZKiZbU6-zk

Mine should be here by June. Then I'll render an opinion if it feels faster than my ZL1

My ZLE runs identical times. 124 trap speed and 11.2 to 11.5 depending on my 60'.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by kd7895

If you want to see a video from Orlando Speedworld, please send me an email or your email address. There was a race in October I believe where I to my car and we ended up racing. I not sure if the Blackwing was AWD, but it launched like it.

My ZLE has a kong ported blower, LT's, 2.3" Upper, Weapon X triple coolers, big gulp and Katech 103mm TB. On 345x30-19 Pilot Supersports I ran 11.21@131

Blackwing idled in the pits with the driver sitting inside. He ran 11.47 @ 127 I believe. He stopped to talk and left the car running the entire time.

I passed him, but not by much. My 60' was around 1.90 and his was in the 1.70's.

He said it was stock, but I have no idea. It was the carbon package.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hyWLVgv8Jv8?feature=share

[Snowwolfe]

For what it is worth, the current carbon fiber packages are all on restraint. Orders are not being accepted for the 5 if you choose any of the CF packages.

[ZL1 1LE]

Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

The BW5 out ran the ZL1 at VIR.


BW5: 2.49.4
ZL1: 2.50.1


Both cars were M6.



Considering the BW5 was on PS4S and the ZL1 on SC3, the beat is even more impressive.


I think a lot of the advantage is due to the new MRC and PTM in the BW.


I think if you consider the BW5 a 4-door ZL1 with nicer interior, you'll be right in the ballpark.

You know that the BW's PS4S is a hybrid and is somewhere between the regular PS4S and the Sport Cup 2.

[pauly1119]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

https://youtube.com/shorts/hyWLVgv8Jv8?feature=share

The BW had a better launch but it looks like the ZLE caught it. If the ZLE had a better launch it would have had it.

[MatthewAMEL]

Originally Posted by ZL1 1LE

You know that the BW's PS4S is a hybrid and is somewhere between the regular PS4S and the Sport Cup 2.

Yup...shoulders are Cup2-kinda, inner is standard PS4S.


Pretty good video about it here:


https://youtu.be/COA630Juf_U

[kd7895]

Very hard to launch on pilot super sport radials. These are street compound tires hence the slow 60’. Basically bog it to get clutch out then feed throttle. Extremely hard not to spin.

Sticky tires would be a huge gain.

Mickey

[Blackdevil77]

Now that the CT5-V Blackwing has been out a bit longer, I think it's safe to say they did make some notable improvement that makes on average, about 50 more rwhp than the ZL1 on the dyno. Not only that, but the power level doesn't plateau either, it keeps climbing all the way to redline, and the torque curve seems flatter to. They seem to range from 58X to 62X on the dyno in stock form.

Does anybody know what the differences are, besides the Global B architecture?

Here are some links to some dyno runs

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...ast-week.2564/

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...n-thread.2527/

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...1-octane.2082/

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...php?p=11155260


And this car made what a ported blower, long tubes, 103 NW throttle body, big gulp and tune ZL1 makes, with only a ported blower on the stock tune. The baseline run is on there as well

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Now that the CT5-V Blackwing has been out a bit longer, I think it's safe to say they did make some notable improvement that makes on average, about 50 more rwhp than the ZL1 on the dyno. Not only that, but the power level doesn't plateau either, it keeps climbing all the way to redline, and the torque curve seems flatter to. They seem to range from 58X to 62X on the dyno in stock form.

Does anybody know what the differences are, besides the Global B architecture?

Here are some links to some dyno runs

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...ast-week.2564/

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...n-thread.2527/

https://www.cadillacvnet.com/forums/...1-octane.2082/

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...php?p=11155260


And this car made what a ported blower, long tubes, 103 NW throttle body, big gulp and tune ZL1 makes, with only a ported blower on the stock tune. The baseline run is on there as well

100% impossible the BW makes 50whp more than a ZL1. The track trap speeds don't support that.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

100% impossible the BW makes 50whp more than a ZL1. The track trap speeds don't support that.

Motor Trend got 127.5 mph trap speeds and motorweek got 128 mph. A few owners hit 128 mph as well. According to the list on here, most ZL1s trap around 123-125, with some exceptions hitting upper 120s.