A10 2nd gear Launch

caseyp · 12-14-2020, 07:28 PM

Has anyone had any luck getting their Zl1 A10 to launch from a dig in 2nd? My previous car was a 600 RWHP 2016 Camaro SS A8 and I could launch it in 2nd in manual mode on the street and it worked perfect stock TCM tune. Now I own a 2018 Zl1 A10 and can't get it to launch in 2nd stock TCM tune. Has anyone had any first hand experience getting their ZL1 to do this? Maybe by modifying the TCM tune? I'm planning a 750 RWHP build and 1st will be useless.

Also, I had the TUTD tables on my previous A8 modified with a "Roll race tune" so I could hold it in 2nd or 3rd manual mode and roll race and the car would upshift automatically without using the paddles or slap the shifter over to drive. Anyone know if this can be done with the 2018 A10 too?

Dave777 · 12-15-2020, 05:33 AM

There a YouTube video of the owner of CSP at the track racing his ZL1 just before he sold it.

He explains the steps to launch the car in 2nd gear.

KingLT1 · 12-15-2020, 08:25 AM

You have to adjust the tutd settings in tcm to be able to do that on a10's.

JSH · 12-15-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

You have to adjust the tutd settings in tcm to be able to do that on a10's.

Can you give us a bit more info here? Can tuners be used to make such adjustments?

arpad_m · 12-15-2020, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH

Can you give us a bit more info here? Can tuners be used to make such adjustments?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563629

JSH · 12-15-2020, 04:53 PM

Thanks to everyone here.

I've owned this car for 6 months and instinctively want to drive and race it manual mode but 1st and 2nd are of minimal use and leaving it to the stock A10 hasn't been pleasant for me, that is until one makes the TUTD edits shown here.

These changes will make the Auto car quicker and faster - sweet

Does anyone have or can anyone make the images of the TUTD settings for an A10?

KingLT1 · 12-15-2020, 05:28 PM

It isn't really much different then a A8. You have 2 more gears...use a online gear calculator to figure the rpm and mph you want the shifts to happen at and plug that mph into the TUTD tables for each gear. 1st gear I would set a couple mph lower then your target. Other then that it's pretty straight forward.

laynlo15 · 12-15-2020, 10:25 PM

Jason Leiva has just started launching his A10 Zl1 over the weekend. He ran 8.67 with 2nd gear wheels up launch. Magnuson 2650 and Vengeance build. Mike Swanson has been launching his A8 in 2nd gear for over a year and he has the fastest Gen6 in the country right now at 8.40, also runs Magnuson 2650.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...45152596638124
https://www.facebook.com/1422570658/...25785121481067
King seems to have it figured out also on how to set it up.

JSH · 12-16-2020, 01:37 PM

I just found that my '20 ZL1 has the T93 TCM, which HPT does not support. Wish I had known this before I bought this car.

KingLT1 · 12-16-2020, 03:59 PM

Yes 2020+ TCM's that are T93 can not be unlocked.

caseyp · 12-16-2020, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave777

There a YouTube video of the owner of CSP at the track racing his ZL1 just before he sold it.

He explains the steps to launch the car in 2nd gear.

I went and found this video on Youtube , thanks. I discovered another nugget in it. He talks about a traction management adjustment for first gear allowing him to use full throttle from a launch in 1st with run flats. Anyone know more about what he is modifying to accomplish this?

grampa_ss · 12-16-2020, 09:17 PM

Subscribing

JSH · 12-16-2020, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caseyp

I went and found this video on Youtube , thanks. I discovered another nugget in it. He talks about a traction management adjustment for first gear allowing him to use full throttle from a launch in 1st with run flats. Anyone know more about what he is modifying to accomplish this?

Yes, a thread here covers this. He's editing the TUTD tables in his TCM (auto trans years 2017-2019, not 2020 or 21) to specify the MPH or RPM for all gears changes. This allows him to burnout, launch and make the whole run in Manual mode, and eliminate rev limiter hits.

He no longer has to launch in manual then push the shift lever to auto to complete the run.

grampa_ss · 12-16-2020, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH

Yes, a thread here covers this. He's editing the TUTD tables in his TCM (auto trans years 2017-2019, not 2020 or 21) to specify the MPH or RPM for all gears changes. This allows him to burnout, launch and make the whole run in Manual mode, and eliminate rev limiter hits.

He no longer has to launch in manual then push the shift lever to auto to complete the run.

That's not what were referring to here. The TUTD settings are easy. Were talking about full throttle in 1st gear from a dig with run flats. That's what we want to know. If you watch his video, he tells you how to do the 2nd gear launch, but he also said he's NOT got to give away the secret on how to launch WOT on run flats.

12-14-2020, 07:28 PM	#1
caseyp Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Plentywood, Mt Posts: 16	A10 2nd gear Launch Has anyone had any luck getting their Zl1 A10 to launch from a dig in 2nd? My previous car was a 600 RWHP 2016 Camaro SS A8 and I could launch it in 2nd in manual mode on the street and it worked perfect stock TCM tune. Now I own a 2018 Zl1 A10 and can't get it to launch in 2nd stock TCM tune. Has anyone had any first hand experience getting their ZL1 to do this? Maybe by modifying the TCM tune? I'm planning a 750 RWHP build and 1st will be useless. Also, I had the TUTD tables on my previous A8 modified with a "Roll race tune" so I could hold it in 2nd or 3rd manual mode and roll race and the car would upshift automatically without using the paddles or slap the shifter over to drive. Anyone know if this can be done with the 2018 A10 too?

12-15-2020, 08:25 AM	#3
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,793	You have to adjust the tutd settings in tcm to be able to do that on a10's. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

12-15-2020, 04:53 PM	#6
JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,556	Thanks to everyone here. I've owned this car for 6 months and instinctively want to drive and race it manual mode but 1st and 2nd are of minimal use and leaving it to the stock A10 hasn't been pleasant for me, that is until one makes the TUTD edits shown here. These changes will make the Auto car quicker and faster - sweet Does anyone have or can anyone make the images of the TUTD settings for an A10? __________________ '20 ZL1 1LE A10, OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. Last edited by JSH; 12-15-2020 at 05:08 PM.

12-15-2020, 05:28 PM	#7
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,793	It isn't really much different then a A8. You have 2 more gears...use a online gear calculator to figure the rpm and mph you want the shifts to happen at and plug that mph into the TUTD tables for each gear. 1st gear I would set a couple mph lower then your target. Other then that it's pretty straight forward. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

12-15-2020, 10:25 PM	#8
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Jason Leiva has just started launching his A10 Zl1 over the weekend. He ran 8.67 with 2nd gear wheels up launch. Magnuson 2650 and Vengeance build. Mike Swanson has been launching his A8 in 2nd gear for over a year and he has the fastest Gen6 in the country right now at 8.40, also runs Magnuson 2650. https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...45152596638124 https://www.facebook.com/1422570658/...25785121481067 King seems to have it figured out also on how to set it up. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

12-15-2020, 05:33 AM	#2
Dave777 Drives: 1985 Z28 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 125	There a YouTube video of the owner of CSP at the track racing his ZL1 just before he sold it. He explains the steps to launch the car in 2nd gear.

12-16-2020, 01:37 PM	#9
JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,556	I just found that my '20 ZL1 has the T93 TCM, which HPT does not support. Wish I had known this before I bought this car. __________________ '20 ZL1 1LE A10, OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next.

12-16-2020, 03:59 PM	#10
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,793	Yes 2020+ TCM's that are T93 can not be unlocked. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

12-16-2020, 09:17 PM	#12
grampa_ss Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Stansbury Park, Utah Posts: 1,092	Subscribing __________________ 2016 2SS, MRC, NPP, A8. Procharger P-1X,Stage II,std bypass, 3.9, Alky Meth - 10.84 @129 - DA+2000 New Mods - GPI drop ins, Kooks 2", LT4 fueling, Cam, Circle D Converter, 3.5 pulley & dual nozzle meth.

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