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01-22-2021, 11:08 PM
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 Drives: Camaro 2021 ZL1 6 speed ragtop Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: CT.
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Cost of HP
I have a 21 ZL1. I am reading all kinds of posts about building cars to 750 -800 HP. And I am reading many posts about engine issues. I am not a mechanic. Please through me round numbers to get a car to 750ish HP by a mechanic. Callaway wants 20k to get to 750 but 5 years warrantee from the dealer. They screw it up they fix it... I think that’s the same as 10k then having problems and having to repair it for 5 years out of pocket, no? Im not sure what way to go and want to hear some opinions please. Thanks Dave
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01-23-2021, 12:25 AM
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 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Lakeside, Az
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Wheel hp or crank?
750 crank is $3-5k 750 wheel, add $5-8k to that. |
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01-23-2021, 09:39 AM
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Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Walton Woods
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01-23-2021, 11:41 AM
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Drives: '20 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Denver, CO
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OEM short block, custom long block
KongX, NW103, 100/104 octane 1.60/10.56/131 @ 8043 DA In-progress: Kong Ported EForce TVS2650; XDI +30; AEM X WB; 3"/8.8"; 60 ft./1/4 mile/mph @ ?DA A few previous cars: 2016 GTR 2013 GTR 2011 BMW M3 2006 Haas GTO, w/Sonny's 742cid (6.52/212 Phoenix) 2001 LS1 Procharger/N2O (9.90 Denver) |
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01-23-2021, 04:31 PM
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 Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: IL
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I wish 6k for 750 wheel hp x
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01-23-2021, 04:39 PM
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Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: RGV Texas
Posts: 1,527
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750-800whp will cost you about 9-10k for everything.
850-900 about 15k |
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01-23-2021, 04:47 PM
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Drives: '20 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Denver, CO
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Give us the names of one or more of these shops so I can call them. Thanks.
I spoke with LMR and they wanted $18k for closer to 700 hp wheel with no warranty. Quote:
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OEM short block, custom long block
KongX, NW103, 100/104 octane 1.60/10.56/131 @ 8043 DA In-progress: Kong Ported EForce TVS2650; XDI +30; AEM X WB; 3"/8.8"; 60 ft./1/4 mile/mph @ ?DA A few previous cars: 2016 GTR 2013 GTR 2011 BMW M3 2006 Haas GTO, w/Sonny's 742cid (6.52/212 Phoenix) 2001 LS1 Procharger/N2O (9.90 Denver) |
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01-23-2021, 07:27 PM
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Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Lakeside, Az
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The stupid 2017 with the A10 I snagged off eBay as a rebuilt salvage title not only cost me $30k but came with the lousy kooks headers, 9.17 lower, green belt, roto fab and a tune. Stupid guy just left me a catch can, ported tb, jms voltage booster and e85 sensor to install and retune. What a crappy deal! On a cool morning down in Phx it probably only makes 675 at the wheels with e50 mix. He even had the audacity to leave the near new Toyo r888r's on it. What a moron. But I made sure they ain't near new anymore. Near gone now!
So I'm just taking a wild guess...on what these mods cost. |
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01-23-2021, 08:01 PM
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Drives: '20 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 2,156
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9.17 lower $500 green belt $75 roto fab $600 tune/dyno $750 catch can $400 ported tb $650 (103mm) jms voltage booster $500 e85 sensor $100 Parts costs $5000-$5500 Labor costs $2500-$3000
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OEM short block, custom long block
KongX, NW103, 100/104 octane 1.60/10.56/131 @ 8043 DA In-progress: Kong Ported EForce TVS2650; XDI +30; AEM X WB; 3"/8.8"; 60 ft./1/4 mile/mph @ ?DA A few previous cars: 2016 GTR 2013 GTR 2011 BMW M3 2006 Haas GTO, w/Sonny's 742cid (6.52/212 Phoenix) 2001 LS1 Procharger/N2O (9.90 Denver) Last edited by JSH; 01-24-2021 at 08:07 AM. |
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01-23-2021, 08:40 PM
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Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Lakeside, Az
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Well my guess for my mods were based on self install vs shop install. Fairly close, though I'm guessing some of the upper shops doing that list would be higher then that.
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01-24-2021, 08:11 AM
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Drives: '20 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Denver, CO
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Vengeance charges $20,000 for 830-850 flywheel or 700-720 wheel, which is inline with every shop I've contacted. Vengenace has a 90-day labor warranty, no parts warranty, does not include hauling. HPE also will sell you 850 flywheel for $20k, no warranty. LMR and LPE same.
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OEM short block, custom long block
KongX, NW103, 100/104 octane 1.60/10.56/131 @ 8043 DA In-progress: Kong Ported EForce TVS2650; XDI +30; AEM X WB; 3"/8.8"; 60 ft./1/4 mile/mph @ ?DA A few previous cars: 2016 GTR 2013 GTR 2011 BMW M3 2006 Haas GTO, w/Sonny's 742cid (6.52/212 Phoenix) 2001 LS1 Procharger/N2O (9.90 Denver) Last edited by JSH; 01-24-2021 at 08:28 AM. |
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01-24-2021, 08:49 AM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
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For their Stage 2 package Vengeance charges around $7500 for up to 100 hp more. So JSH your numbers are pretty much spot on with all the aftermarket companies. Seems the more hp you want the more it will cost!
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01-24-2021, 08:52 AM
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Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Michigan
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Here is Katech's pricing. I think they have a 3 year/36,000 mile warranty, from what Zach told me when I spoke with him a couple months ago.
Their Stage 4 is probably what I am going to do when I am ready.  https://shop.katechengines.com/?s=&y...=G6+Camaro+ZL1 |
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01-24-2021, 08:55 AM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Petersham MA
Posts: 2,709
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The 800+ WHP range will be even more expensive than what is being tossed around due to the fueling to do it right. This can easily be a $7-10K mod depending on which way you go (port/XDI) with it. I’m well over $25K in mods and still have to do the fuel system this year (again lol)...
 Meth is obviously much cheaper short term...but much more expensive long term if you know what I mean... 
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