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Old 01-16-2021, 11:22 AM   #15
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@Jaxcam02 now that's some leg room! Lol
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Old 01-16-2021, 11:24 AM   #16
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I don't have any, and with proper side mirror alignment the visibility is pretty good. The blind spot notification system is pretty good too. Maybe the only thing with the 6 speed is the "bogging" from a stand still GM engineered into the car for traction management.
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Old 01-16-2021, 11:51 AM   #17
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I'm 5'11" but whenever we would be driving with 3 in the car my son would be sitting behind my wife who is 5'3" so it will probably be ok. Still will check one out at a dealership to confirm though. Besides the back seats being small/tiny are there any other things that have bugged you about the car? Only other real complaint I've seen is rear visibility, which also isn't great on the car I have now (Taurus SHO). Thank you all for the replies so far!
Getting in/out of the car can be a bit cumbersome on a ZL1 with the extended side skirts. This difficultly, for me, is mainly when in my 2-car garage, on the right side. There isn’t all that much room to open the door, so finangling my dad-bod in, without door dinging the wife’s cars passenger side, or scuffing my side skirt takes a bit of skill haha.
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Old 01-16-2021, 11:58 AM   #18
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Getting in/out of the car can be a bit cumbersome on a ZL1 with the extended side skirts. This difficultly, for me, is mainly when in my 2-car garage, on the right side. There isn’t all that much room to open the door, so finangling my dad-bod in, without door dinging the wife’s cars passenger side, or scuffing my side skirt takes a bit of skill haha.
This reminds me, do these cars have issues with the front tires throwing rocks and rubble right into the rear fender like the C6 Z06 and ZR1? Are your extended side skirts to protect against that? I found this out the hard way on my Z06, took it out too early one year and returned home with nice rock blasted rear fenders
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Old 01-16-2021, 12:21 PM   #19
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This reminds me, do these cars have issues with the front tires throwing rocks and rubble right into the rear fender like the C6 Z06 and ZR1? Are your extended side skirts to protect against that? I found this out the hard way on my Z06, took it out too early one year and returned home with nice rock blasted rear fenders
Most people, including myself, mitigate that with zl1addons.com rock guards
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Old 01-16-2021, 12:50 PM   #20
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Welcome fellow ‘sconi.

Not sure if you will be looking at new or used, but the future of the Camaro is quite questionable beyond ‘22 or ‘23.

Rear leg room is bad. I’m 5-8” & have a long torso & stubby kegs (30” Inseam) & there is very little room behind my seat. I don’t currently have a pic showing it, but trust me. It was quite the clown show when I, the wife, my 14 yr old & 8yr old all in the SS. The best you can call it is sorta usable. I highly doubt a full child seat will even fit, dunno.

Yet, even with that being what it is I still got a ZL1. If I ever have a passenger it’s usually the wife.

A 19+ mitigates the possibility, as of now, of oil pump issues.

Yes, rock guards are a very good idea. My SS got a nasty ding from that very thing.

As for you wanting a manual, you may want to look into what some say about the take-off throttle response. The A10 is a beast of a tranny & lighting fast shifting.

The visibility isn’t great, but you get used to it & the anti-collision system along with the rear view mirror camera mitigates a lot of that.

The trunk opening has a bit to be desired while the space itself isn’t too bad.

Tire wear of the factory GY’s is pretty low, but your ZO6 was probably similar.

If you are remotely considering one, start looking! With Employee pricing, if that still going on, it is a good time to buy new, especially with the used market being crazy.
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Old 01-16-2021, 02:03 PM   #21
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The 19' is the best year. No oil pump issues and you can still tune the tranny. You can't do that on the 20', 21'.
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Old 01-16-2021, 03:15 PM   #22
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Lol I'm only 6 foot 190. And my seat is barely leaned back.
That seat is leaned very far back, what are you talking about haha.

I’d love to see a picture of you in there with your arms on the steering wheel.
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Old 01-16-2021, 03:22 PM   #23
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He wants a 6speed so no worries about tuning the trans. I love my 21' ZLE m6 so far. Yes the suspension is stiff but i dont really think it's that bad. The badassery of the 1le package makes it worth it in my opinion especially if it's not your daily.
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Old 01-16-2021, 04:39 PM   #24
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I thought about buying for like 5 minutes then bought. Thinking about buying 2 yrs from now seems crazy!!! Thats alot of patience!!!
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Old 01-16-2021, 04:43 PM   #25
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That seat is leaned very far back, what are you talking about haha.

I’d love to see a picture of you in there with your arms on the steering wheel.
Ask and you shall receive. If I was any closer to the steering wheel I would be very uncomfortable with the shifter. I guess I have monster arms. Lol
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Old 01-16-2021, 06:09 PM   #26
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Ask and you shall receive. If I was any closer to the steering wheel I would be very uncomfortable with the shifter. I guess I have monster arms. Lol
I'd be the last to criticize anyone's preferred seating position, and thanks for the pic.

So, strictly as my personal take, this looks like a 75% gangsta lean to me, the ideal seatback tilt angle I read about everywhere and can attest to personally is at 100°—when you place your hands on top of the steering wheel with your arms completely stretched out, your wrists are touching the wheel. When I set my seat up that way, it's comfortable, easier to focus on the road, and I have several inches behind the seat, enough for my 12 year old to be comfortable.

That said, I have the A8, so I don't interact with the shift knob that often, that is a fair point. Another minor gotcha is that my exit position is way more towards the back than the driving position, so I need to remember to turn off auto exit position recall when someone rides behind me, or tell them to get out on the passenger side before I touch my door handle
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Old 01-16-2021, 07:56 PM   #27
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Ask and you shall receive. If I was any closer to the steering wheel I would be very uncomfortable with the shifter. I guess I have monster arms. Lol
Thanks for obliging. That is definitely a very relaxed way to drive, and definitely works for you.

I would say 95% of people don’t drive in a position like that so the rear seats are useable for kids or smaller people. Definitely smaller than a 4th gen somebody referenced earlier.
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Old 01-16-2021, 08:43 PM   #28
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Im 5’10 and seat comfortably with my 6 year old in the booster behind me, with my wife of 5’7 also comfortably seating with a rear facing infant seat. Bumpy ride doesn’t bother anyone in the car and kids like riding with me
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