[The Zebra]

[QUOTE=GreenZLE;11365318]$14.70 is less than $15 to be precise.


No

[HartfordRacingCaptain]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Grand River


Doesn’t impact Camaro. Lansing Delta builds Chevy Traverse, Buick Enclave, and GMC Acadia.

Camaro is built at Lansing Grand River.

I thought the railheads at LGR were dead, and everything got shipped out of Delta. If the teamsters are backing up the UAW at the sites they are striking, wouldnt that impact Camaro?

[genxer]

@The Zebra, Thanks for reminding, inflation is also a giant subsidy for the markets. Lower incomes keep a higher percent in cash. I'm sticking with calling inflation theft.

Originally Posted by olrocker

I didn't expect to tick you off that much. Meh, the forum is better with some spirit instead. My brother has had a good career so far in medical and defense. I admire him much more than because of a damned job.


The country is screwed, can't say we don't deserve it. There's not much of a hurdle between now, and a future where Mary Barra changes up her press announcements - With her hair dyed black, rolling a bearing down a panel gap, saying how proud she is to present the new products from the hands and brainchild of Asian employees.

[olrocker]

Originally Posted by genxer

@The Zebra, Thanks for reminding, inflation is also a giant subsidy for the markets. Lower incomes keep a higher percent in cash. I'm sticking with calling inflation theft.
I didn't expect to tick you off that much. Meh, the forum is better with some spirit instead. My brother has had a good career so far in medical and defense. I admire him much more than because of a damned job.


The country is screwed, can't say we don't deserve it. There's not much of a hurdle between now, and a future where Mary Barra changes up her press announcements - With her hair dyed black, rolling a bearing down a panel gap, saying how proud she is to present the new products from the hands and brainchild of Asian employees.

Well you kinda came out of the gate to my analysis with basically a diss on engineers based on what you know about your brother. At least, if you go back and read what you said, to someone who doesn't know your brother at all, that's exactly what it sounded like.

[genxer]

I definitely intended to dump on the waxing poetic tone for the profession. (Quick for instance: planned obsolescence). I didn't intend to be taken personally at all, sorry for that.

[Bhobbs]

I have no problem with unions asking for more. I do have a problem GM can’t say no.

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by olrocker

But by the 70s they'd become so powerful, they were now controlling the companies.

This is the problem with Unions in the modern day. IMO, they should be abolished. No union should be able to hold a corporation hostage like this.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

This is the problem with Unions in the modern day. IMO, they should be abolished. No union should be able to hold a corporation hostage like this.

It doesn't stop until they go too far and bring down employers. In this case, .gov would likely bail them out again.

[olrocker]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

This is the problem with Unions in the modern day. IMO, they should be abolished. No union should be able to hold a corporation hostage like this.

GM had the chance in 2008. Once they were legally under bankruptcy, the then existing union contracts were pretty much not worth the paper they were written on - they all went with Motors Liquidation Company, the company created by court to dump everything from GM’s bankruptcy liquidation into.

In theory they could have destroyed the UAW completely and there wouldn’t have been a damn thing they could do. The best would be to claim what they could from the scraps of the Motor Liquidation Company then either find new employment at another company or re-apply for their old job at the new GM in a completely non-union operation.

Then you know who was elected. That ended any chance of that happening.

[SlowLS1]

Working for an automotive manufacturer in the south, the UAW seems odd to me. It eliminates a competitive work force which drives wages up naturally and imo, fairly. Employers in my area compete for the local workforce with wages and benefits. Talent goes where the money is, like any other industry. This gives power to the general workforce, not just the skill trades.


That being said, I DO believe that the UAW served a great purpose a long time ago.

[The Zebra]

Originally Posted by SlowLS1

Working for an automotive manufacturer in the south, the UAW seems odd to me. It eliminates a competitive work force which drives wages up naturally and imo, fairly. Employers in my area compete for the local workforce with wages and benefits. Talent goes where the money is, like any other industry. This gives power to the general workforce, not just the skill trades.


That being said, I DO believe that the UAW served a great purpose a long time ago.

^THIS^

[90503]

[SlowLS1]

Originally Posted by 90503

I have never seen or heard that song. Very cool, thanks for sharing!

Interesting tidbit, in a modern auto manufacturer, At least 90% of those processes shown in the video are automated now.