[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

TRACTION

And that ridiculous launch delay.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

And that ridiculous launch delay.

What is the reason for that delay anyway? Has anyone ever said? That would drive me insane.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by 13vertss

Cup2

LOL, I knew that. I was being sarcastic. Because none of these excuses seem to match up. The excuse for the GT500's lack of consistency is the Cup2s. However on the same day and same track the GT3 with the same tires did not fall off as severely. And traction is the reason the GT500 can't beat the ZL1 and ZLE despite everyone swearing up and down that it would. Yet even on prepped tracks in full day sessions they're only doing like one 10 sec run and the rest are 11s. Meanwhile the ZR1 at 755 HP is not having these issues. So I'm just trying to figure out what the Mustang guys are saying the issue is. Because if a car is built right then it should not be having these kinds of problems.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

What is the reason for that delay anyway? Has anyone ever said? That would drive me insane.

Probably to keep the car under control because it has traction issues.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

What is the reason for that delay anyway? Has anyone ever said? That would drive me insane.

The car had to go from neutral to engagement of a clutch (like a manual) and also be very, very careful with clutch slip if in launch control. Add in the fair amount of engine torque and traction management.

The time is likely keeping the clutch(es) alive + controlling engine torque/traction.

Probably just a limit Ford set to keep things alive.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by Mountain

The car had to go from neutral to engagement of a clutch (like a manual) and also be very, very careful with clutch slip if in launch control. Add in the fair amount of engine torque and traction management.

The time is likely keeping the clutch(es) alive + controlling engine torque/traction.

A full second to do that seems like a long time to me. I've never owned a DCT so maybe it's normal.

[Mountain]

Ford must’ve changed something with their launch control last minute because the Goodwood car has a more instant reaction.

https://youtu.be/M54KkW-0MfM

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Ford must’ve changed something with their launch control last minute because the Goodwood car has a more instant reaction.

https://youtu.be/M54KkW-0MfM

I'm pretty sure that the 1-second claim is probably more like .2 which is still a lifetime in this category.

[BlaqWhole]

I wonder if the C8s will have this issue...

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

A "track" is any organized legal, "non street", racing in an shape or form using several substances: concrete, asphalt, dirt or sand.

When people are asked about them building an engine and car up, they are always asked, "are you taking it to the track?". And in most cases is the 1/4 mile, or track.

Yep, "track" does not have to be a road course. Multiple places out there to enjoy your car without worrying about the cops.

Let's address the root of the track argument as pertains to the new GT500, which was Blaqwhole correctly identifying the fact that the new GT500 having a top speed limited to 180 is sad. It's pretty pathetic that this overpriced Ford has the same top speed as a Camaro SS that costs about half as much in true price. Consider that if Ford was aiming at the Hellcat and ZL1, they've had since 2015 and 2017 respectively to compete. The fact that they did so poorly in this aspect means that we can only speculate why, with 760hp, does it have the same top speed as a 455hp Camaro? For those who don't personally care about speed, at least admit that both the Hellcat and ZL1 having pretty fast top speeds (neighborhood of 200) carries some bragging rights, and it's strange that Ford allowed their more-expensive car to get spanked by both of these older models.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

LOL, I knew that. I was being sarcastic. Because none of these excuses seem to match up. The excuse for the GT500's lack of consistency is the Cup2s. However on the same day and same track the GT3 with the same tires did not fall off as severely. And traction is the reason the GT500 can't beat the ZL1 and ZLE despite everyone swearing up and down that it would. Yet even on prepped tracks in full day sessions they're only doing like one 10 sec run and the rest are 11s. Meanwhile the ZR1 at 755 HP is not having these issues. So I'm just trying to figure out what the Mustang guys are saying the issue is. Because if a car is built right then it should not be having these kinds of problems.

But you've never been on a track so you shouldn't comment on things you don't know about. If you just refrained from that I wouldn't have to correct you on so many things. As I already said many pages ago, the Porsche weighs over 1000 lbs less. On the same tires you tell me which ones will last longer using physics not imaginations? Also there isn't anyone on the planet who goes to the drag strip then discusses their slowest runs. You pretty much only mention your fastest pass and throw all the other slips away.

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Yep, "track" does not have to be a road course. Multiple places out there to enjoy your car without worrying about the cops.
Let's address the root of the track argument as pertains to the new GT500, which was Blaqwhole correctly identifying the fact that the new GT500 having a top speed limited to 180 is sad. It's pretty pathetic that this overpriced Ford has the same top speed as a Camaro SS that costs about half as much in true price. Consider that if Ford was aiming at the Hellcat and ZL1, they've had since 2015 and 2017 respectively to compete. The fact that they did so poorly in this aspect means that we can only speculate why, with 760hp, does it have the same top speed as a 455hp Camaro? For those who don't personally care about speed, at least admit that both the Hellcat and ZL1 having pretty fast top speeds (neighborhood of 200) carries some bragging rights, and it's strange that Ford allowed their more-expensive car to get spanked by both of these older models.

Us road course guys are particular with the term track, as per my earlier post.
No one here should be concerned with the top speed of these cars as no one will ever hit it, unless you are a paid test driver that takes the car to the Nardo Ring one time. As you said it's just bragging rights nothing else.
IF the GT500 has high speed stability issues i could see the concern, but i highly doubt the new car is more unstable than the 2014.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

But you've never been on a track so you shouldn't comment on things you don't know about. If you just refrained from that I wouldn't have to correct you on so many things. As I already said many pages ago, the Porsche weighs over 1000 lbs less. On the same tires you tell me which ones will last longer using physics not imaginations? Also there isn't anyone on the planet who goes to the drag strip then discusses their slowest runs. You pretty much only mention your fastest pass and throw all the other slips away.


Us road course guys are particular with the term track, as per my earlier post.
No one here should be concerned with the top speed of these cars as no one will ever hit it, unless you are a paid test driver that takes the car to the Nardo Ring one time. As you said it's just bragging rights nothing else.
IF the GT500 has high speed stability issues i could see the concern, but i highly doubt the new car is more unstable than the 2014.

Hitting 160mph on a road course is fast/scary enough for me!

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Hitting 160mph on a road course is fast/scary enough for me!

The one time I clipped 130 on a short track (M1 Concourse) I nearly needed an underwear change after the next corner.

Like a famous comedian once said...."first you say it, then you do it"....."Oh $#!t"

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

But you've never been on a track so you shouldn't comment on things you don't know about.

Who says I never been on a track? You think you know a lot about me and you really don't. And you don't have any of the cars being discussed nor are you getting one. I currently have 2 of the cars being discussed. And I'll have a C8 in a few months which will be 3 of the 4 cars being discussed. Therefore you have no business opening your mouth about cars that are far out of your reach.

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

If you just refrained from that I wouldn't have to correct you on so many things.

You haven't corrected me on one thing. Let's get that out of the way. Before you even hobbled over here, everything you had to say was discussed at length. We done discussed all this, moved on, revisited it, left it alone, and came back again long time ago in threads that we long ago abandoned. You showed up here from wherever you were for one reason and that was for attention. You were bored and your first act here was to pick a fight with me. Just like your friends from M6G have been doing. So don't try to fool anyone into thinking you're some whiz kid because you really aren't. In fact I'm still waiting for some proof that you own anything or do any of the stuff you talk about. Because you don't seem to know much at all.

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

As I already said many pages ago, the Porsche weighs over 1000 lbs less. On the same tires you tell me which ones will last longer using physics not imaginations? Also there isn't anyone on the planet who goes to the drag strip then discusses their slowest runs. You pretty much only mention your fastest pass and throw all the other slips away.

Oh bullshit. Nobody is asking what the slowest runs were or to discuss the slowest runs. But it helps to see the range to know if the car is consistent and can repeat these runs or if it a $94K one pump chump. If I'm paying this much money then I damn sure wanna know if I can run once and that's it and have to spend another $1600+ on tires or if it can repeat a good run a few times.

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Us road course guys are particular with the term track, as per my earlier post.

I don't care. If you're struggling this much to figure it out then like I said, stick to what you do and I'll stick to what I do. IDGAF how slow your SS is or if you never took it over 130 MPH or if you possibly can't understand that there are places where you can drive fast or what. You and you Mustang boys however seem obsessed with every detail about me and my life. So if you're that concerned and want to know that much then start asking around the car community and someone will gladly either tell you outright or hint you along.

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

No one here should be concerned with the top speed of these cars as no one will ever hit it, unless you are a paid test driver that takes the car to the Nardo Ring one time. As you said it's just bragging rights nothing else.

IF the GT500 has high speed stability issues i could see the concern, but i highly doubt the new car is more unstable than the 2014.

There are plenty of people who go that fast and faster. You're just not one of them.