[Faster12]

So before anybody dismisses this thread....take a second to read it. Typically when the next iteration of a vehicle is produced, especially a performance vehicle, it's designed to be a better, evolved form of it's predecessor. Although the Z06 by name, was not a direct replacement for the ZR1, it did take the place of the king of corvettes for the C7. Interestingly enough, aside from paper comparisons...I cannot find a single head to head professionally or illegally done. Why is it that there are no real life comparisons of the two cars in straight line acceleration, or on a track? So, posing that question leads me to the topic of this thread. Do you think we will see some guys racing the gen 5 ZL1s against the gen 6, in either some youtube video or a legitimate head to head comparison done by car and driver, motor trend..etc? I would love to see how the 5th gen compares stock for stock when the 6th gen hits the streets. I say this because by all paper measures the new ZL1 will be better, but how much and how so? I've heard plenty of guys who've owned ZR1s or known someone who did say they believe the ZR1s are quicker on the strip. Again, we can discuss times and stats, but wouldn't empirical evidence be better?

[Sven59]

The Gen 6 will do everything better as it should. My only concern at this point is the durability of the rear end in the Gen 6?

[KyleL]

Originally Posted by Sven59

The Gen 6 will do everything better as it should. My only concern at this point is the durability of the rear end in the Gen 6?

The rear end through the a8 has handled 9 second 1/4 mile passes so far

[Sven59]

They did over 800 hard launches on the Gen 5 rear end, will the Gen 6 be as bombproof?

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[KyleL]

I can't imagine stronger components being replaced with weaker ones on what's supposed to be a better car.


Here's to hoping though lol

[Sven59]

I think the release said an electric limited slip, but I didn't hear if it was more track focused or 1/4 mile?

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by KyleL

I can't imagine stronger components being replaced with weaker ones on what's supposed to be a better car.


Here's to hoping though lol

Not necessarily weaker, but a different purpose.

[Blueclyde]

Originally Posted by Faster12

So before anybody dismisses this thread....take a second to read it. Typically when the next iteration of a vehicle is produced, especially a performance vehicle, it's designed to be a better, evolved form of it's predecessor. Although the Z06 by name, was not a direct replacement for the ZR1, it did take the place of the king of corvettes for the C7. Interestingly enough, aside from paper comparisons...I cannot find a single head to head professionally or illegally done. Why is it that there are no real life comparisons of the two cars in straight line acceleration, or on a track? So, posing that question leads me to the topic of this thread. Do you think we will see some guys racing the gen 5 ZL1s against the gen 6, in either some youtube video or a legitimate head to head comparison done by car and driver, motor trend..etc? I would love to see how the 5th gen compares stock for stock when the 6th gen hits the streets. I say this because by all paper measures the new ZL1 will be better, but how much and how so? I've heard plenty of guys who've owned ZR1s or known someone who did say they believe the ZR1s are quicker on the strip. Again, we can discuss times and stats, but wouldn't empirical evidence be better?

I doubt that we see any direct head to head comparisons. We will see the 6th gen ZL1 tested at most of the same tracks and will have plenty of track times to compare. There is no real value in a head to head between these two models. That's my two cents.

[KaBoom1701]

[Tim Adams]

Originally Posted by KyleL

The rear end through the a8 has handled 9 second 1/4 mile passes so far

Axles have snapped on cars already. You on borrowed time with a stock rear suspension trying to run low10's or 9's.

That being said there can't be any way the suspension components will be the same between the SS and ZL-1

[Thor142]

The most you're going to be able to do is some bench racing with magazine times. Aside from Camaro enthusiasts I don't think there's much interest in a comparo of 2 cars the average person has never heard of.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Faster12

So before anybody dismisses this thread....take a second to read it. Typically when the next iteration of a vehicle is produced, especially a performance vehicle, it's designed to be a better, evolved form of it's predecessor. Although the Z06 by name, was not a direct replacement for the ZR1, it did take the place of the king of corvettes for the C7. Interestingly enough, aside from paper comparisons...I cannot find a single head to head professionally or illegally done. Why is it that there are no real life comparisons of the two cars in straight line acceleration, or on a track? So, posing that question leads me to the topic of this thread. Do you think we will see some guys racing the gen 5 ZL1s against the gen 6, in either some youtube video or a legitimate head to head comparison done by car and driver, motor trend..etc? I would love to see how the 5th gen compares stock for stock when the 6th gen hits the streets. I say this because by all paper measures the new ZL1 will be better, but how much and how so? I've heard plenty of guys who've owned ZR1s or known someone who did say they believe the ZR1s are quicker on the strip. Again, we can discuss times and stats, but wouldn't empirical evidence be better?

I think, and this is just my opinion, that it doesn't matter. With the limited time and resources these magazines have to test and review vehicles...they spend it on competitor vehicles or an in-depth review, rather than put it up against an antiquated version of itself.

YouTube bloggers? Maybe...would be interesting, but again...nothing that we didn't already assume.

Originally Posted by Sven59

They did over 800 hard launches on the Gen 5 rear end, will the Gen 6 be as bombproof?

This number keeps changing every time it's quoted. I don't even remember what the test procedure called for, anymore...But suffice to say it was a lot.

What does not get shared quite as often is that they did the same thing with the SS, and the Z/28...it's one of the standard internal tests they do on their performance cars.

Where the ZL1 excelled was in using a cast-iron differential and mammoth axles. The assembly was said to be worth over 1000hp for people that intended to slap drag radials on the car and do that sort of thing. The upside is: It worked...very well. The downside was: It added many many pounds...

Originally Posted by Tim Adams

That being said there can't be any way the suspension components will be the same between the SS and ZL-1

Believe it or not, many mechanical suspension components are shared between all models, and some are even shared between the Camaro and the Cadillacs. This is part of what makes Alpha a shared architecture.

That said, there will be extensive tuning and calibration...everywhere from bushing stiffness and stabilizer bar thickness to MR damping programs.

[Blueclyde]

It's called the Woodward Launch Test

[big dave]

I would assume that the new ZL1 would still have a rear at least as strong as the outgoing model. We know that the new car will be a couple hundred lighter but that loss is from the switch to the new platform. I'm thinking that because the losses are pretty consistent across the camaro lineup, the heavy zl1 specific rear might still be under the back of the beast.