[oldman]

Originally Posted by hotlap

If the Mach 1 offers GT350 performance at a SS 1LE price ($45k) it would be a step forward. Unfortunately, Dave Pericak mentions collectibility when discussing the Mach so it won’t be affordable.

So I'm saying that Mach 1 should look more like the Shelby and be priced more like a Mustang. I also think the markup on the flatplane could be have had. So maybe $49K Mach 1 that looks more like the Shelby with flatplane. For me looks sells more cars than any performance metrics (blasphemy), the Mach 1 pictured is just plan UGLY... so don't care about the performance at that point.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

GT350 will be out of the showroom by the time Mach I lands. And Mach I will have proper cooling. Think Bullitt + PP2 (incl Cup 2 tires)+ coolers + choice of Tremec 6MT or 10AT. Both Bullitt and GT350 end with 2020 model year.

So for 2021 you have EcoBoost —> GT —> PP1 —> Mach I —> GT500. Pretty decent spread.

Is the a10 and a tremec 6 speed confirmed as far as trans options or just an ecucated guess?

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by oldman

So I'm saying that Mach 1 should look more like the Shelby and be priced more like a Mustang. I also think the markup on the flatplane could be have had. So maybe $49K Mach 1 that looks more like the Shelby with flatplane. For me looks sells more cars than any performance metrics (blasphemy), the Mach 1 pictured is just plan UGLY... so don't care about the performance at that point.

I don't think the mach 1 will have flat plane crank. So far all the leaks and data suggest the bullit version of the gt 5.0 engine.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Gosh, these Mustangs are expensive. I guess I forgot the 350 starts at over $62K.

Is the Camaro just an insane bargain? Would a $62K GT350 seem more reasonable if the SS1LE didn't exist?

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Yes lol. Remember when the GT350 came out going on almost 6 model years ago, it offered performance of the 75K Z/28. then GM came and just took everyones lunch money with the SS1LE which also offered that performance....except at a price of 44K lol

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I don't think the mach 1 will have flat plane crank. So far all the leaks and data suggest the bullit version of the gt 5.0 engine.

Ford's press release said it will have the 5.0

[oldman]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I don't think the mach 1 will have flat plane crank. So far all the leaks and data suggest the bullit version of the gt 5.0 engine.

yeah it should have but does not have a flat plane crank
it should have been good looking but it is butt ugly
Add the two together and we get a marketing failure

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Is the a10 and a tremec 6 speed confirmed as far as trans options or just an ecucated guess?

Educated guess.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I don't think the mach 1 will have flat plane crank. So far all the leaks and data suggest the bullit version of the gt 5.0 engine.

This one is beyond an educated guess. Ford has referred to it as the "best 5.0L track car...."

The track car part is why I am assuming PP2 + Cup 2 + coolers + Tremec.

[shaffe]

Seems to be a few people over on the other site that believe the Mach 1 is also going to replace the PP2.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

This one is beyond an educated guess. Ford has referred to it as the "best 5.0L track car...."

The track car part is why I am assuming PP2 + Cup 2 + coolers + Tremec.

Yea I knew the 5.0 was confirmed but I don't think the output has been confirmed yet (to my knowledge, which isn't saying much lol), but some leaked 2021 spec sheets suggest it'll be the Bullit's 480hp vs the standard 5.0 GT 460hp.

[ZRacerLE]

Going to be an awesome car:

https://carbuzz.com/news/2021-ford-m...l-than-bullitt

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Going to be an awesome car:

https://carbuzz.com/news/2021-ford-m...l-than-bullitt

525 horsepower out of the 5.0 would be pretty awesome.

And GM sleeps at the wheel.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

525 horsepower out of the 5.0 would be pretty awesome.

And GM sleeps at the wheel.

GM isn't interested in the Camaro anymore.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

525 horsepower out of the 5.0 would be pretty awesome.

And GM sleeps at the wheel.

I will believe it when I see it. I think it will probably be 495 or 500 even. To get 525 would be a pretty aggressive set up from the factory wouldn't it?

[oldman]

IMO, it would / should have a flateplane crank and better headers.