04-28-2021, 12:50 PM | #15 | |
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Also, isn't putting drag radials on a ZL1 somewhat defeating the purpose of a ZL1 being a "triple threat"? I guess if you don't care about taking turns... but I drive on twisty roads a lot, so drag radials aren't for me.
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04-28-2021, 02:16 PM | #16 | |
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The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is a great wet/dry, street/road course, tire but not so good at the strip. I'll buy a set of real GY race slicks for that.
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04-28-2021, 08:17 PM | #17 | |
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04-28-2021, 08:23 PM | #18 |
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04-28-2021, 08:33 PM | #19 | |
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The 4S is a Max Performance Summer that has better performance numbers than perhaps any tire. It is not a winter tire. If you want a tire for street use in all weather except ice/snow, and maybe a little road course, go with the 4S. Tire Racks say it's "simply the best." I've driven it since it came out.
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OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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04-28-2021, 09:28 PM | #20 | |
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It's been said many of times on here and by GM to not drive them in rain or cold weather but do what you want with also knowing the risk. As mentioned, they are extreme summer tires that do very, very good in dry, hot conditions when brought up to temp but have a low tread wear rating. |
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05-03-2021, 02:51 PM | #21 | |
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From Tirerack on the Supercar 3: "The Eagle F1 SuperCar 3 is engineered to excel on the street or track in warm, dry and wet conditions, and like all Extreme Performance Summer tires, it is not intended to be serviced, stored nor driven in near-and below-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. Utilizing a high-grip, race-inspired tread compound provides the Eagle F1 Supercar 3 with impressive traction in dry and wet conditions..." For comparison, the PS4S description from Tirerack: "The Pilot Sport 4S excels in warm dry and wet conditions, so like all Max Performance Summer tires, is not intended to be serviced, stored nor driven in near- and below-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." The 3Rs, on the other hand, come w/ a wet road warning: "Warning: Eagle F1 Supercar 3R radials meet DOT requirements, however, they are not recommended for driving in wet conditions..." The Michelin PS4S on my Mustang were pretty good in the rain, but they weren't as wide as the ZL1's Supercar 3 tires. Also, the PS4S have a lot more siping, so I think tire to tire they will be better than the Supercar 3 in the rain. That said, looking at the 3 tread, I agree they are probably not that good in the rain due to a lack of adequate water channels. I agree it would be best to avoid standing water w/ the SC3.
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05-03-2021, 05:05 PM | #23 | |
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What makes these tires different from other extreme performance tires is the compound and the tread depth and rating. I'm certain 5000 miles on my Pirelli P Zero tires will do a lot better than your 5000 mile SC3s in rainy weather. That's the difference people seem to forget. Not doubting the SC3s ability to be used in the rain but since I drive my car year round, in all conditions, I feel more confident in not using the SC3s and tracking the mileage and knowing I'm due to change the tires at around 7k or 9k miles. Can't believe we're still going on about this. Oh well. |
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05-03-2021, 05:40 PM | #24 | |
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05-10-2021, 07:18 PM | #25 |
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If yes my choice will either be a stage 2 or 3.
I'm thinking stage 2 will probably be the way to go I'm hearing the stage 3 would need higher stall torque converter..... Do they even make any for this car? However since the transmission will be retuned will that allow for a stage three if desired? A friend of mine is recommending a cam made by GPI. Anyone familiar with them? |
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