03-18-2018, 11:05 PM | #15 |
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Yea thanks for your great point. Really. Super valid and worth saying. I'll make sure to consult you before spending money on, anything really.
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03-18-2018, 11:37 PM | #16 |
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Did you even read the OP Tender Toes? He was puzzled why the V6 does not get more attention far as modding. What I stated was a valid point....was not saying anything bad about the V6. It's a great engine.
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03-19-2018, 02:00 AM | #17 | |
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Look you can put on a blower and hurt the reliability of the car, and kill your warranty on your 30~k car. Maybe a bit less but with the blower it will be low 30's. Spend a few thousand more, and you get more power, more future power potential, warranty, emissions friendly, and just way more reliable at the same power level. Can a v6 supercharged live a long time? Absolutely. Can it also just take a dump because you had bad fuel in it and the car was pushed further than you realized? Absolutely. Can you run a super conservative tune to prevent failure, in exchange for any value HP per $? Absolutely. I've worked with 6 cylinders. v6's and inline sixes. Built, watched fail stock or built, taken apart. Turbo, supercharged etc. When it gets into making power, more cylinders, with more rods, more pistons, more bearings to take the load, you're almost always going to be better off with a decent v8 over any 6 cylinder. Unless the v6's in this thing are built 90's toyota tough, they're not going to be a better option boosted than a v8. It's not even about displacement (although that certainly is a part), it's about handling the forces involved. Thermal load, physical load etc. You could take an ss with flex fuel and headers to track, hpde or whatever. It will run all day until you run out of fuel or tires or both. The v6... I wouldn't want to be the one being the guinea pig to see if it can handle a track day. Or X number of pulls. It's not a proven engine in regards to forced induction. And that fact can bite you in the ass harder than you can imagine. If you want to parade around about "being different" sure go ahead, spend your money however you want, but don't start crying when someone tells you something you don't want to hear. It's a concrete logical point of view. |
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03-21-2018, 02:34 PM | #18 |
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Gosh darn it, it's too bad Formula 1 teams in the 1980s never ran 50-60 lbs of boost on tiny 4 cylinder engines or anything. Darn, "there's no replacement for displacement" attitude wins again
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03-21-2018, 03:19 PM | #19 | |
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While I agree with most of the points you make in your discussion it really is not the topic here. The topic is forced induction and the thread is specifically about a V6 forced induction kit. As far as I'm concerned saying you should get a V8 instead of installing a V6 forced induction kit is just like saying you should buy a ZL1 instead of installing forced induction on an LT1. Yeah, maybe, but to each his own. I will say those track rats obsessed with lowering mass generally avoid the v8's. I would bet the V6 1LE with a supercharger would be impressive on the tight tracks and could possibly lap faster than a V8 1LE.
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03-21-2018, 03:48 PM | #20 | |
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IMO, it makes more sense to mod the LGX because the LT1 SS is ALREADY fast. Just my two pennies though. |
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03-21-2018, 03:55 PM | #21 |
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If you want to go faster, GM gave us tiers you can purchase for exactly this purpose. We have a choice between the I4, LGX, LT1 and LT4. Don't get mad at the LT1/4 for pointing this out because you bought the LGX and hit the modification ceiling too quickly.
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03-21-2018, 03:55 PM | #22 |
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Anyhoo, back to the topic at hand, Dustya posted in the LGX forum that he ran a 12.8x, which was his very first run, and I think he did the run without track-prepping at all. Here's think to the thread: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521888
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03-21-2018, 03:57 PM | #23 |
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I'm not mad, I chose the LGX over the LT1 for several reasons, none of which have to do with mod-ability.
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05-03-2018, 05:06 PM | #24 |
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Back to the original question....
So....back to the original question that was asked in this thread a year ago... lol
anyone else has gotten the supercharger for the LGX and run it without issues in the past year? |
06-19-2018, 07:26 AM | #25 |
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I’m wondering if anyone in California has installed the supercharger (stage1 or stage2) on their V6 and if so were they able to pass smog with it.
Not saying I really want to get one, just curious if it’s a viable option for a daily driver in California. You never know, I may end up with $10k or so in the future to blow on doing something crazy with the car. |
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