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Old 03-31-2017, 04:19 PM   #127
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I don't have a ZL1 and I know ideally you want to use first gear, but if the torque management problem only exists in first gear has anyone tried a second gear start with a dead mash of the pedal? Will TM still interfere or will the decrease in torque multiplication of the gear ratio slow the 60' beyond TM when using first?

Just spitballing, I only have 900 miles on my Callaway and haven't experimented with launching much at all yet.
I know that 2nd gear starts worked on the Hellcats that were experiencing too much wheel spin in 1st, I'm not sure how that would work on the Z. Too bad the hellcat problem isn't the same thing happening here. lol.
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:20 PM   #128
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I don't have a ZL1 and I know ideally you want to use first gear, but if the torque management problem only exists in first gear has anyone tried a second gear start with a dead mash of the pedal? Will TM still interfere or will the decrease in torque multiplication of the gear ratio slow the 60' beyond TM when using first?

Just spitballing, I only have 900 miles on my Callaway and haven't experimented with launching much at all yet.
I would love to know what your callaway will do in the 1/4 and 0 to 60.....
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:21 PM   #129
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I would love to know what your callaway will do in the 1/4 and 0 to 60.....
In other words...will it be faster than a nannsy pansy Zl1!!!!
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:57 PM   #130
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Well its quoted at 3.5 0-60 and 11.5 1/4 mile so I don't think so. But idk if Callaway tuned out any torque management or not? Have to wait and see when it finally gets nice up here in PA. My only close drag strip is notoriously horrible though. Pretty embarrassing running 12.5s in my manual hellcat especially when I was running 12.7-8s in my C5Z06 before the cat.
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Old 03-31-2017, 06:00 PM   #131
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Well its quoted at 3.5 0-60 and 11.5 1/4 mile so I don't think so. But idk if Callaway tuned out any torque management or not? Have to wait and see when it finally gets nice up here in PA. My only close drag strip is notoriously horrible though. Pretty embarrassing running 12.5s in my manual hellcat especially when I was running 12.7-8s in my C5Z06 before the cat.
I wouldn't think they did, especially if they're offering a warranty. It exists to save you from breaking shit. There's tuners around here that are on the fence about tuning it out. I'm not sure if it's just on/off or if it's something that can be adjusted though. If it's adjustable, then I'm sure it may be a little less intrusive.
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Old 03-31-2017, 09:42 PM   #132
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I don't have a ZL1 and I know ideally you want to use first gear, but if the torque management problem only exists in first gear has anyone tried a second gear start with a dead mash of the pedal? Will TM still interfere or will the decrease in torque multiplication of the gear ratio slow the 60' beyond TM when using first?

Just spitballing, I only have 900 miles on my Callaway and haven't experimented with launching much at all yet.
I know you can't do a second gear start in the A10. It won't let you, even though the A10 2nd is about the same overall ratio as 1st in the M6. Probably too tall of a gear in the M6. Can't wait to get the last 600 miles of break in over with on mine, so I can see what I can manage with it.
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:14 PM   #133
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I know you can't do a second gear start in the A10. It won't let you, even though the A10 2nd is about the same overall ratio as 1st in the M6. Probably too tall of a gear in the M6. Can't wait to get the last 600 miles of break in over with on mine, so I can see what I can manage with it.
Really? You can in the a8....that's odd.
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:18 PM   #134
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I was hoping high 10s or much lower 11s would be possible.
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:26 PM   #135
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I was hoping high 10s or much lower 11s would be possible.
Keep in mind this was only 1 car. These times will be beaten. Guaranteed!!!
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:05 AM   #136
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Keep in mind this was only 1 car. These times will be beaten. Guaranteed!!!
I'm sure they will but not by much if this TM problem is real. If and when we see a car break out and run a much better 60' you would have to assume it has been tuned. IMO it is not worth risking the warranty of the car for a few tenths.

If Chevy and Cadillac programmed this TM in, they must have had a valid concern as this is not a standard practice.
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Old 04-01-2017, 04:37 PM   #137
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Hmmmm, I may need to change my '10SECND' license plate...transferred over from my trade lol.
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Old 04-02-2017, 08:52 PM   #138
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Alright, so there's this (from a friend)...Still didn't crack the 60 ft you guys were discussing, but the time is something to be happy about. I've got the run in .mov format but forum doesn't seem to like that extension. I'll let you know if I get the details on his DR tire set up.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:02 PM   #139
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So there was some gain on tires.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:16 PM   #140
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So there was some gain on tires.
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