New Dyno Numbers

JGiovando · 02-12-2019, 08:22 PM

Got my car tuned today and happy with the results of my mods which includes a Roto Fab dry cai and 1 7/8" Kooks long tubes with high flow cats. Super happy with the guys at Redline Motorsports especially Howard and Rich

ParisTNDude · 02-12-2019, 08:26 PM

Very nice numbers. Did you make a base line pull prior to the headers and CAI. It would be interesting to know what it was stock and then what the improvement was. What gear did he do the measurement and how many pulls did he make?

JGiovando · 02-12-2019, 08:39 PM

Thanks, I feel good about it. No baseline cause I had the cai before the car was delivered and installed it right away. Had the car a little over 4 months and just did the headers.
Based on others baselines I'd guess it would have been somewhere between 405 and 415, just a guess. Not sure of the gear, will need to reach out and repost once I know. I'm a novice to all of this so learning as I go. 2 pulls on the dyno.

wnta1ss · 02-13-2019, 06:06 AM

Baseline would have let you know the gains. If you knew what other LT1s tend to read on that dyno, you could have a rough idea of the ballpark your car might have been in. Example, at a dyno in my area, my Camaro SS baselined at 395rwhp and a Corvette Grand Sport baselined at 403rwhp, so that is a ballpark for an LT1 on that dyno (small sample size though). On the dyno that you used, I recall seeing a Camaro SS (M6) that baselined at 435rwhp. This was in a magazine article about a build they did (made it a 416). Really small sample size though.

JGiovando · 02-13-2019, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Baseline would have let you know the gains. If you knew what other LT1s tend to read on that dyno, you could have a rough idea of the ballpark your car might have been in. Example, at a dyno in my area, my Camaro SS baselined at 395rwhp and a Corvette Grand Sport baselined at 403rwhp, so that is a ballpark for an LT1 on that dyno (small sample size though). On the dyno that you used, I recall seeing a Camaro SS (M6) that baselined at 435rwhp. This was in a magazine article about a build they did (made it a 416). Really small sample size though.

I get what you are saying and I realize most guys on here want a baseline to measure gains.
I was comfortable knowing and applying the standard average of 15% drivetrain power loss and not so much interested in a baseline but more so the end result. By your reference with the Camaro at this shop, that would equate to roughly a 4.3% drivetrain power loss from the flywheel to the rear wheels which I believe is unheard of. Would like to read the article if you could post a link.

JonD · 02-13-2019, 07:02 AM

No baseline? Lots of info missing when that happens

Ok now to run that thing to see what your times are since your number on pump are equivalent to cars with more mods AND e85.

ss2fast4u · 02-13-2019, 07:04 AM

thankfully finally a dyno with headers and cai without e85 lol. Since e85 isnt really available around me I am always curious of the addition to headers. Nice numbers

Roto-fab 1 · 02-13-2019, 09:01 AM

Awesome! Thanks for using our CAI

G2K · 02-13-2019, 09:30 AM

while redline is a great shop, their dyno is a high reading one... I guess they like to keep their customers happy by showing them great numbers.... im full bolt on and on e85 and only made 467 (445 on 93 oct) at another dyno near redline called STP motorsports... dynos are for gains, not results... so take this as a grain of salt (since you have no baseline) and don't expect it to perform based on that number because then you'll be heart broken or blaming the shop when you loose to a car with supposedly less HP. Had a friend do his stuff at another shop where his car made 515 on my same mods... he felt super bad when i beat him with my 467.

He was like "the car should be much faster!!! it has 515hp" but i know in real life a LT1 on just bolt ons will never read 500HP

Im local, so if at any time you need pointers, tips or whatever just let me know... i've had my 1LE for about 1 1/2 year and done everything myself but the tune... you bought a great car, enjoy it

JGiovando · 02-13-2019, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Very nice numbers. Did you make a base line pull prior to the headers and CAI. It would be interesting to know what it was stock and then what the improvement was. What gear did he do the measurement and how many pulls did he make?

Talked to the guys and they said the runs were made in 4th gear because the gear ratio is 1:1

wnta1ss · 02-13-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JGiovando

Would like to read the article if you could post a link.

I bought the actual magazine back then. Super Chevy, January 2017 issue. You could see if they have it online I guess. Title of the article was 'AU NATURAL' and the author was Scott Parker.

SJFGTO · 02-13-2019, 05:53 PM

Very nice. The torque curve is impressive. Nice little bump there at 4000 rpms. Congrats!

zr1chris · 02-13-2019, 06:58 PM

Great numbers!

JGiovando · 02-13-2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wnta1ss

I bought the actual magazine back then. Super Chevy, January 2017 issue. You could see if they have it online I guess. Title of the article was 'AU NATURAL' and the author was Scott Parker.

Found the article and thanks for sharing. Not sure what to make of it as that car was actually and auto trans that underwent the afm delete. From what I gather auto trans will typically experience an average 4% additional drivetrain power loss over the manual. So if that auto baselines at 435hp, and I get that's what they showed in the article, yet I'm struggling to see that based on all the posts out there, that should put my baseline around
452hp, without allowing for any gains from the headers and cai. Something seems off with those numbers. Had it been a manual it wouldn't be so much of a stretch for me to believe.
Yes a baseline would have yielded some info and useful data but I didn't have the extra money to justify getting one.
Still think just using the average nowadays of around 8% on manual and 12% on auto which would result in 418hp and 400hp respectively is a reasonable assumption and good enough for me. That would also fall in line with expected gains from headers and cai when compared to my numbers, gaining about 30hp.
Just wanted to share what I got and say I really liked the guys down there at Redline. I appreciate the supportive comments from the community.

02-12-2019, 08:22 PM	#1
JGiovando Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 161	New Dyno Numbers Got my car tuned today and happy with the results of my mods which includes a Roto Fab dry cai and 1 7/8" Kooks long tubes with high flow cats. Super happy with the guys at Redline Motorsports especially Howard and Rich Attached Images

02-12-2019, 08:26 PM	#2
ParisTNDude Owning SSes for 50 Years Drives: Sharkskin Grey LT1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Paris, TN Posts: 3,139 View My Garage	Very nice numbers. Did you make a base line pull prior to the headers and CAI. It would be interesting to know what it was stock and then what the improvement was. What gear did he do the measurement and how many pulls did he make? __________________ The new ride: 2023 Camaro, LT1, Sharkskin Grey Previous Performance Cars: 1966 Chevelle SS 4M, 2010 Corvette 6M 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Auto 2012 1SS 6M 1982 Corvette Auto 2010 1SS 6A 1984 Corvette Auto 2016 2SS 8A 1999 Camaro Auto 2017 HBM 1SS 1le 2002 C5 Corvette 6M 2018 2SS 2006 Corvette Auto 2023 Camaro LT1

02-13-2019, 07:02 AM	#6
JonD Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Arizona Posts: 292	No baseline? Lots of info missing when that happens Ok now to run that thing to see what your times are since your number on pump are equivalent to cars with more mods AND e85. __________________ 🌽 Sauced, 2018 SS 1LE - 123mph @ 5,000 DA ARH 2”x3” FULL System, Pray Ported MSD Intake Manifold, Pray Ported GM 95mm TB, RotoFab CAI, DsX e85 Kit, MightyMouse Catch Can, NicD Tune https://instagram.com/corn_sauced?ut...d=o0ako89uurwl Last edited by JonD; 02-13-2019 at 07:41 AM.

02-13-2019, 09:30 AM	#9
G2K @Blackmamba_1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 740	while redline is a great shop, their dyno is a high reading one... I guess they like to keep their customers happy by showing them great numbers.... im full bolt on and on e85 and only made 467 (445 on 93 oct) at another dyno near redline called STP motorsports... dynos are for gains, not results... so take this as a grain of salt (since you have no baseline) and don't expect it to perform based on that number because then you'll be heart broken or blaming the shop when you loose to a car with supposedly less HP. Had a friend do his stuff at another shop where his car made 515 on my same mods... he felt super bad when i beat him with my 467. He was like "the car should be much faster!!! it has 515hp" but i know in real life a LT1 on just bolt ons will never read 500HP Im local, so if at any time you need pointers, tips or whatever just let me know... i've had my 1LE for about 1 1/2 year and done everything myself but the tune... you bought a great car, enjoy it __________________ OG: Pray Perf FBO ET:11.5 @119 THEN:LT4 SC, E85 + Meth :10.6 @135 NOW: H/C Whipple 416ci

02-13-2019, 05:53 PM	#12
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,061	Very nice. The torque curve is impressive. Nice little bump there at 4000 rpms. Congrats! __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

02-12-2019, 08:39 PM	#3
JGiovando Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 161	Thanks, I feel good about it. No baseline cause I had the cai before the car was delivered and installed it right away. Had the car a little over 4 months and just did the headers. Based on others baselines I'd guess it would have been somewhere between 405 and 415, just a guess. Not sure of the gear, will need to reach out and repost once I know. I'm a novice to all of this so learning as I go. 2 pulls on the dyno.

02-13-2019, 06:06 AM	#4
wnta1ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NH Posts: 1,692	Baseline would have let you know the gains. If you knew what other LT1s tend to read on that dyno, you could have a rough idea of the ballpark your car might have been in. Example, at a dyno in my area, my Camaro SS baselined at 395rwhp and a Corvette Grand Sport baselined at 403rwhp, so that is a ballpark for an LT1 on that dyno (small sample size though). On the dyno that you used, I recall seeing a Camaro SS (M6) that baselined at 435rwhp. This was in a magazine article about a build they did (made it a 416). Really small sample size though.

02-13-2019, 07:04 AM	#7
ss2fast4u 2018 Camaro 1ss M6 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS M6/ LT4 SC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 92	thankfully finally a dyno with headers and cai without e85 lol. Since e85 isnt really available around me I am always curious of the addition to headers. Nice numbers

02-13-2019, 09:01 AM	#8
Roto-fab 1 Drives: 16 Camaro SS w/ Roto-fab CAI Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,682	Awesome! Thanks for using our CAI

02-13-2019, 06:58 PM	#13
zr1chris Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Port Saint Lucie FL Posts: 1,224	Great numbers!

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