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Old 04-07-2021, 11:10 AM   #15
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‘19+ tail lights are best tail lights.
19 tails look like Malibu lights
17-18 master race
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Old 04-07-2021, 11:39 AM   #16
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I used to think that, now I think the 17-18 looks a little out of date. 19+ looks good at night

Oil pump failure would be my main concern with 17-18s, almost seems like a matter of time - roll of the dice
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:00 PM   #17
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OP I agree with you. 19 tail lights are awful.

I'm glad I got the very first year, 2018 before they murdered the rear end with the new tail lights and that weird crease in the rear bumper.

Good luck with the search.
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Old 04-07-2021, 04:53 PM   #18
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I used to think that, now I think the 17-18 looks a little out of date. 19+ looks good at night

Oil pump failure would be my main concern with 17-18s, almost seems like a matter of time - roll of the dice
they may look okay at night, but 18 dark tails look good all the time lol.
thats my issue with them they ONLY look good lit up
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Old 04-07-2021, 07:17 PM   #19
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There’s no guarantee that the pump will last but you should be ok with a 2018 that has a later build date (5/18 +). Most of the failures occurred in cars with a 2017 build date. I’ve only seen a hand full of 18s that have failed. Set aside some money just in case it does fail.
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:19 PM   #20
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if they didn't have the refresh tail lights id get a 19. I just can not do the tail lights on them
Goodluck with you hunt.
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:39 PM   #21
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OP I agree with you. 19 tail lights are awful.

I'm glad I got the very first year, 2018 before they murdered the rear end with the new tail lights and that weird crease in the rear bumper.

Good luck with the search.
OMG I have been interested in/looking for a ZLE for close to a year now.. Never realized the bumper was different between the '18 and '19+!

I like the '19+ taillights fine but I think I do prefer the '18 bumper. Certainly not a deal breaker though.. And if I don't have to worry about the oil pump, I think that is a worthwhile "sacrifice".

The color for me is the most difficult decision. So many ZLEs for sale right now are white!!! They look awesome in white, but I really want a darker color. I think when a darker color is taken care of, you get a much better glossy deep look that you can't really get with white.

Can't do black either though. had a black car, that was basically a full time job.
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:48 PM   #22
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I'd imagine the oil pump can be replaced preventively on a 2018. May be a bit of extra upfront cost, but it's probably worth getting done for your peace of mind.

Also agree with your take on the taillights, it's quite sad if the old ones can't be swapped on along with the old rear bumper. I have seen a myriad 2019+ Camaros and these exterior changes are an absolute dealbreaker even after all these years. GM lost a ZL1 sale with me, my money went to Magnuson and Jannetty Racing instead.
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Old 04-07-2021, 10:13 PM   #23
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they may look okay at night, but 18 dark tails look good all the time lol.
thats my issue with them they ONLY look good lit up
They look good in the light & great at night.

I liked my ‘18 lights just fine, but then the 19+ came out & I just craved that new contoured look vs the plain Jane flat back.

It’s literally like a girl with double D’s vs Lauan.

Your claim to tail light master race is flawed & incorrect, but you do you.
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Old 04-08-2021, 01:10 AM   #24
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I'd imagine the oil pump can be replaced preventively on a 2018. May be a bit of extra upfront cost, but it's probably worth getting done for your peace of mind.

Also agree with your take on the taillights, it's quite sad if the old ones can't be swapped on along with the old rear bumper. I have seen a myriad 2019+ Camaros and these exterior changes are an absolute dealbreaker even after all these years. GM lost a ZL1 sale with me, my money went to Magnuson and Jannetty Racing instead.
I love you bro (no homo), & your & King’s builds had me on the edge of modding my SS, but knowing my eventual goals & all the advantages upfront modding a ZL1 over an SS, along with all the extras a ZL1 comes with, won me over.

The awesome lookin’ ass on the 19’s was vs my 18 is like J Lo vs Tay Tay.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:25 PM   #25
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lmfao you can try to make terrible comparisons all you want. but numbers don't lie, theres a reason 17-18s are bringing a premium. majority of ppl hate the Malibu lights
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:44 PM   #26
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lmfao you can try to make terrible comparisons all you want. but numbers don't lie, theres a reason 17-18s are bringing a premium. majority of ppl hate the Malibu lights



LOL what... that is such a dumb statement.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:26 PM   #27
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I bought the 19 over an earlier model specifically FOR the smoked taillights.


That and because I didn’t want a fragile oil pump LOL.
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Old 04-11-2021, 01:23 PM   #28
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LOL what... that is such a dumb statement.
It’s a factual statement. 18s are bringing premiums and are selling insanely fast. There’s a reason new ones are just sitting on lots
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