[MP3BOOSTED]

Originally Posted by Korosion

How do you like the vvt3 cam? I am still debating one keeping with the vvt2 or going with the vvt3. Do you know what the differences would be in terms of sound, power and drivability?

so from what I have heard people usually do the vvt2 so they don't change the converter, if you want to hear the vvt3 check out my videos out on youtube of the idle. sounds amazing, chops real hard. I loved the vvt3 cam because it had much higher rpm pull vs the vvt2 and vvt1. the vvt2 still sounds really nice but gives you that lower rpm torque that many are looking for. Drive-ability wise i couldnt' say much on the vvt2 as those who i know that have it are all autos. the vvt3 drove very great. it's all in the tune so just have to make sure you have a reputable tuner.

[Korosion]

Originally Posted by MP3BOOSTED

so from what I have heard people usually do the vvt2 so they don't change the converter, if you want to hear the vvt3 check out my videos out on youtube of the idle. sounds amazing, chops real hard. I loved the vvt3 cam because it had much higher rpm pull vs the vvt2 and vvt1. the vvt2 still sounds really nice but gives you that lower rpm torque that many are looking for. Drive-ability wise i couldnt' say much on the vvt2 as those who i know that have it are all autos. the vvt3 drove very great. it's all in the tune so just have to make sure you have a reputable tuner.

Interesting, I heard that even with the vvt2 you need to change the converter. Regardless, these stock TC suck anyways so I would be changing it regardless of the cam. I am dropping off my deposit today to my installer and will be discussing the vvt2 vs vvt3 as I do like the lower RPM torque the vvt2 offers, my question is how much more does it offer over the vvt3? And your car sounds great! I have actually seen your videos in the past when I first started doing research.

[KingLT1]

It says right in the VVT-2 description that it requires a larger stall. Just call Circle D.

[Korosion]

Update: Dropped off the deposit today, changed some things, going with the vvt3 and a 2800-3000 stall converter.

[70chevelleSS]

Originally Posted by Korosion

My installer is doing the cam swap without removing the engine.

I have seen it down both ways. Seems like most people end up saying pulling the motor is the way to go..

I think I’m going to start accumulating parts and probably plan on taking on the project this summer when work slacks up a little.

If you don’t mind me asking, what are you paying for labor on this project?

[Korosion]

Originally Posted by 70chevelleSS

I have seen it down both ways. Seems like most people end up saying pulling the motor is the way to go..

I think I’m going to start accumulating parts and probably plan on taking on the project this summer when work slacks up a little.

If you don’t mind me asking, what are you paying for labor on this project?

Parts and labor, $7700.

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by Korosion

Update: Dropped off the deposit today, changed some things, going with the vvt3 and a 2800-3000 stall converter.

You're gonna regret that decision, but if you are set on that 2800 stall go with a single disc. Did you call Circle D and they recommended that ?

[Korosion]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

You're gonna regret that decision, but if you are set on that 2800 stall go with a single disc. Did you call Circle D and they recommended that ?

Yes, circle D recommend the 2800-3000 stall.

[KingLT1]

There ya go...I am surprised they suggested that low of a stall for a cam with 5 degrees of overlap. Hope your build goes well. Keep us updated.

[Korosion]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

There ya go...I am surprised they suggested that low of a stall for a cam with 5 degrees of overlap. Hope your build goes well. Keep us updated.

It's mainly because of the autocross/HPDE I do. Something any higher and it would be too loose and create a lot of heat, per them.

[Korosion]

Ended up going with the 3200 stall... lol. Everything should be here end of the month! I will post pictures of install and videos.

[Hagels316]

Originally Posted by Korosion

Ended up going with the 3200 stall... lol. Everything should be here end of the month! I will post pictures of install and videos.

I have a 3200 Circle D stall with my TSP stage 3. With a good trans tune it runs great on the street. You should be happy with the result.

[Korosion]

I was told that it would be "pointless" to get a pray ported intake manifold and a ported TB with the vvt3 cam, that I need to get a ported MSD and a 95MM TB. Now I get that the benefits would be great with the MSD and 95mm, but I would assume there would still be benefits/gains with the ported stock stuff. Right?

[KingLT1]

I would agree...in order to fully utilize the RPM and power potential of the VVT-3, a ported MSD is a wise choice. The stock IM peaks too early in the RPM range for that cam. To build a strong NA setup requires selecting parts that work well together. A large cam with Mediocre heads/intake will get outperformed by a small cam with Excellent heads/intake. People tend to want to make all the power they can with the cam alone, and while that is cheaper then spending the money on good heads and intake, it almost never performs as well.

For example, I would wager that a 3200stall, stock cam, ported MSD/95tb, ported heads setup would outperform a 3200 stall, VVT-3 cam, Stock ported IM/TB, ported heads setup at the track or road course.