[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Physically look at any LT1s 10 speed auto cars, open the hood and look down, I am confident you will see the trans cooler on each one.

Will do
I actually hope you're correct

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

Will do
I actually hope you're correct

Bring a bright light with you, you can see it thru the bottom grill also. I have the front bumper reinforcement off on my car to remove front end weight, so the cooler is very visible looking down thru the hood latch opening, may be hidden with the reinforcement and absorber material in place.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Bring a bright light with you, you can see it thru the bottom grill also. I have the front bumper reinforcement off on my car to remove front end weight, so the cooler is very visible looking down thru the hood latch opening, may be hidden with the reinforcement and absorber material in place.

I wanted to ask you, when you look down the hood latch, can you see through the cooler holes? Or is there a plastic piece down there that has holes?
When I looked at the local one here in town, I saw holes. At the time I did t think the LT1 came with the cooler so I assumed it was just a plastic piece with holes in it. Figured it was just the location where it would be mounted for the SS.

Oh, and BTW how much does the front crash bar weigh? I had the front and rear off my 01 SS and replaced with mid west chassis lightweight bumper supports.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

I wanted to ask you, when you look down the hood latch, can you see through the cooler holes? Or is there a plastic piece down there that has holes?
When I looked at the local one here in town, I saw holes. At the time I did t think the LT1 came with the cooler so I assumed it was just a plastic piece with holes in it. Figured it was just the location where it would be mounted for the SS.

Oh, and BTW how much does the front crash bar weigh? I had the front and rear off my 01 SS and replaced with mid west chassis lightweight bumper supports.

Not worth messing with the front crash bar. The OEM one is only 8.0 lbs. I ordered the Cordes fabricated one because it advertised a 7.7 lbs weight reduction…false! The Cordes one is 6.1 pounds, so less than two pounds of weight savings. And by the time you added tow hook and horn bracket provisions I suspect it would be heavier than the stock crash bar. TLDR, I put the stock one back on.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Not worth messing with the front crash bar. The OEM one is only 8.0 lbs. I ordered the Cordes fabricated one because it advertised a 7.7 lbs weight reduction…false! The Cordes one is 6.1 pounds, so less than two pounds of weight savings. And by the time you added tow hook and horn bracket provisions I suspect it would be heavier than the stock crash bar. TLDR, I put the stock one back on.

Thanks for the info. Well that’s disappointing. The old 4th gens were roughly 20 up front and 20 in the back. The midwest chassis chrome Moly bumper supports were about 3 pounds if IIRC.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

Thanks for the info. Well that’s disappointing. The old 4th gens were roughly 20 up front and 20 in the back. The midwest chassis chrome Moly bumper supports were about 3 pounds if IIRC.

This car uses a good amount of aluminum and is an impressive chassis IMO. There are other things you can do to save weight…are a number of “weight loss” threads on the forum.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

I wanted to ask you, when you look down the hood latch, can you see through the cooler holes? Or is there a plastic piece down there that has holes?
When I looked at the local one here in town, I saw holes. At the time I did t think the LT1 came with the cooler so I assumed it was just a plastic piece with holes in it. Figured it was just the location where it would be mounted for the SS.

Oh, and BTW how much does the front crash bar weigh? I had the front and rear off my 01 SS and replaced with mid west chassis lightweight bumper supports.

Yes, you will see a plastic piece down there with square cutouts (holes), the cooler radiator is visible thu the holes, look thru the lower grill also, you can see it. With the bumper absorber material and the re inforcement bar I recollect weighing about 11 lbs. My thoughts are 10 lbs here, 11 lbs there 15 lbs over there etc and if I got almost 50 lbs off the nose, it was worth it.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

How much was added for the 8 speed auto trans on your SS per the window sticker? Maybe the 1595 add for the 10 speed on the LT1 cars covered everything added to the car for the trans? I truly believe every LT1 10 speed gets the cooler and no separate option code.

$1495.

Interestingly, my window sticker makes no mention of a transmission cooler, while the engine oil cooler is listed. Nevertheless, this is just an excerpt of options, the complete build sheet should be authoritative (or so I thought), and that one does list the trans cooler.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

$1495.

Interestingly, my window sticker makes no mention of a transmission cooler, while the engine oil cooler is listed. Nevertheless, this is just an excerpt of options, the complete build sheet should be authoritative (or so I thought), and that one does list the trans cooler.

here is mine

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Yes, you will see a plastic piece down there with square cutouts (holes), the cooler radiator is visible thu the holes, look thru the lower grill also, you can see it. With the bumper absorber material and the re inforcement bar I recollect weighing about 11 lbs. My thoughts are 10 lbs here, 11 lbs there 15 lbs over there etc and if I got almost 50 lbs off the nose, it was worth it.

I agree with you man. No doubt. I remember when I took the a/c condenser and compressor off my 01 SS, first thing I noticed was the front end of the car lifted up a little more upon takeoff. I have all sorts of track data from that car. I'm wishing I kept it. I would of tossed a built LS3 and 9" rear in it. It already had a FLT level 4 4L60E installed
Now here I am stressing out over all this newer stuff

[Kamero6]

I have an LT1 and I can see the engine oil cooler on the side. What is the "extra" oil cooler the SS has for the engine?
As far as I know they run coolant lines to the oil heat exchanger next to the oil filter. Unless the heat exchanger is different in LT1 and SS (bigger), what is the extra cooler?

Regarding the trans cooler, based on what you guys said, It might be a marketing stun to push people to buy the SS. It doesn't make any sense engineering-wise to undercool a vehicle to upsell you the next tim.
Might be true in the manual transmission, since most manuals don't have transmission oil cooler.

I Also think since the LT1 is limited to 155mph, you can only apply the 455hp to the drivetrain for a limited amount of time, then the ECU will cut power and maintain 155mph.
This will stop extreme heat generation in the transmission, differential and engine. Even at a track day. Makes total sense to remove the Diff cooler in this scenario.

If you don't have limiter and reach Vmax for extented periods, then dissipating the heat generated by losses/friction would be key to avoid oil overheating.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by Kamero6

I have an LT1 and I can see the engine oil cooler on the side. What is the "extra" oil cooler the SS has for the engine?
As far as I know they run coolant lines to the oil heat exchanger next to the oil filter. Unless the heat exchanger is different in LT1 and SS (bigger), what is the extra cooler?

Regarding the trans cooler, based on what you guys said, It might be a marketing stun to push people to buy the SS. It doesn't make any sense engineering-wise to undercool a vehicle to upsell you the next tim.
Might be true in the manual transmission, since most manuals don't have transmission oil cooler.

I Also think since the LT1 is limited to 155mph, you can only apply the 455hp to the drivetrain for a limited amount of time, then the ECU will cut power and maintain 155mph.
This will stop extreme heat generation in the transmission, differential and engine. Even at a track day. Makes total sense to remove the Diff cooler in this scenario.

If you don't have limiter and reach Vmax for extented periods, then dissipating the heat generated by losses/friction would be key to avoid oil overheating.

Do you have a trans cooler on your LT1?

[Sillysspeed]

My lt1 10spd has the trans cooler. I couldn’t imagine any of them not having it

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Sillysspeed

My lt1 10spd has the trans cooler. I couldn’t imagine any of them not having it

You're right, here is the official TSB as confirmation.