Suspension upgrades

Kngofharts13 · 10-13-2020, 04:17 PM

I’ve been considering lowering springs for a while now. Herd there were issues using them with magride and other issues with not getting as big a drop as most would like. Bilstein just dropped their new suspension for the 6 gens which includes the adjustable shocks and lowering springs. This may be the route I take. What’s everyone’s opinions on dumping magride? And does anyone know a good price to sell your used magride setup?

Also, the bilstein setup was tested in Germany on Nurburgring so it is track worthy.

Thanks

kropscamaro16 · 10-13-2020, 04:18 PM

we do not know that it was tested on a 1le or a car with magride nor that it was track tested most guys with magride so not remove them unless its for mcs or jrz or dssv coilovers but if you want to be the test dummy go for it!

Kngofharts13 · 10-13-2020, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

we do not know that it was tested on a 1le or a car with magride nor that it was track tested most guys with magride so not remove them unless its for mcs or jrz or dssv coilovers but if you want to be the test dummy go for it!

Ok so I misspoke, the suspension features technology tested on Nurburgring. Are you trying to say these other brands you e mentioned are a superior product? Doesn’t seem like you to enthused by Bilsteins option.

kropscamaro16 · 10-13-2020, 05:10 PM

i am not but i have not been able to test one it just depends on what you are looking for if you are looking to get low or get super low or if you are looking for on track performance i have done alot of coilover research ...trust me lol

Kngofharts13 · 10-13-2020, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

i am not but i have not been able to test one it just depends on what you are looking for if you are looking to get low or get super low or if you are looking for on track performance i have done alot of coilover research ...trust me lol

My concern isn’t very low at as I track the car. I haven’t done a ton of research on it yet which is why I came here for advice. I’ve herd guys had issues with lowering springs with magride so I’m trying to see what the best route is. A full replacement that’s still going to have decent performance for the track? Or stick with magride and get lowering springs. Or do nothing.

kropscamaro16 · 10-13-2020, 05:46 PM

i would just try out the yyz springs my buddy in utah has em on his 1le and he loves em he also got 19s and better tires and vorshlag camber plates

i have yyz springs/custom bilsteins from powell raceshop he is still working on the shocks but will have them available next year

kropscamaro16 · 10-13-2020, 05:54 PM

or your other option is dsc jrz or mcs coilovers but those are $$$$

BrandanK · 10-14-2020, 07:13 AM

I'd love to see some before and after test data on the Bilstein setup.
I'd imagine no one has a very good comparison like GM did for their suspension package.
Because of this, I am 95% sure I am going to purchase the GM suspension package for my LT1 in the Spring. Guaranteed improvements that were designed by the same team that designed the car.

I'm not saying that Bilstein doesn't make a great product, but I'll need to see some data before I'd consider purchase.

Brandan

CoeusAscended · 10-14-2020, 07:54 AM

Not dissing the Bilstein stuff but unless there's quantifiable comparisons done that we can view, "tested at the Nurburgring" means nothing and is just an empty advertising slogan. Lowering springs in general won't affect Magneride if you stay within reason, up to 30-35mm or so. And that's usually the most available springs will drop anyhow. Just go with tried and true brands with plenty of reviews and experience, BMR, Eibach, H&R etc

I'm also iffy on swapping out the Magneride stuff, seems a bit overkill unless you go for an all-out track car, but just for the street, that's just money thrown away for nothing. You'd be better off swapping the rear cradle bushings and make the rear tighter than swapping out an already perfectly good shock system...

Msquared · 10-14-2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CoeusAscended

I'm also iffy on swapping out the Magneride stuff, seems a bit overkill unless you go for an all-out track car, but just for the street, that's just money thrown away for nothing.

Couldn't agree more. OP, what is your intended use for the car, and what is your experience level in driving? I can't tell you how many times I've seen people make their stock cars slower and more difficult to drive fast with mods like these.

kropscamaro16 · 10-14-2020, 10:43 AM

one of our local guys just got his set and will be getting it on shortly interested to see what he says!

Thill444 · 10-14-2020, 10:53 AM

Yeah I am skeptical. What is it that you don't like about the SS1LE suspension? Magnetic ride is an upgrade for these cars and GM has spent countless hours developing and testing it for our cars. What about the integration with the e-diff?

If you just want the car to be slightly lower there are lowering springs that work with the magnetic dampers. If you are looking for better track performance, there are other mods you can try first.

10-13-2020, 04:17 PM	#1
Kngofharts13 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 7	Suspension upgrades I’ve been considering lowering springs for a while now. Herd there were issues using them with magride and other issues with not getting as big a drop as most would like. Bilstein just dropped their new suspension for the 6 gens which includes the adjustable shocks and lowering springs. This may be the route I take. What’s everyone’s opinions on dumping magride? And does anyone know a good price to sell your used magride setup? Also, the bilstein setup was tested in Germany on Nurburgring so it is track worthy. Thanks

10-13-2020, 04:18 PM	#2
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	we do not know that it was tested on a 1le or a car with magride nor that it was track tested most guys with magride so not remove them unless its for mcs or jrz or dssv coilovers but if you want to be the test dummy go for it! __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

10-13-2020, 05:10 PM	#4
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	i am not but i have not been able to test one it just depends on what you are looking for if you are looking to get low or get super low or if you are looking for on track performance i have done alot of coilover research ...trust me lol __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

10-13-2020, 05:46 PM	#6
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	i would just try out the yyz springs my buddy in utah has em on his 1le and he loves em he also got 19s and better tires and vorshlag camber plates i have yyz springs/custom bilsteins from powell raceshop he is still working on the shocks but will have them available next year __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

10-13-2020, 05:54 PM	#7
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	or your other option is dsc jrz or mcs coilovers but those are $$$$ __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

10-14-2020, 07:13 AM	#8
BrandanK Drives: 2021 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 255 View My Garage	I'd love to see some before and after test data on the Bilstein setup. I'd imagine no one has a very good comparison like GM did for their suspension package. Because of this, I am 95% sure I am going to purchase the GM suspension package for my LT1 in the Spring. Guaranteed improvements that were designed by the same team that designed the car. I'm not saying that Bilstein doesn't make a great product, but I'll need to see some data before I'd consider purchase. Brandan

10-14-2020, 07:54 AM	#9
CoeusAscended Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS 2018 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 102	Not dissing the Bilstein stuff but unless there's quantifiable comparisons done that we can view, "tested at the Nurburgring" means nothing and is just an empty advertising slogan. Lowering springs in general won't affect Magneride if you stay within reason, up to 30-35mm or so. And that's usually the most available springs will drop anyhow. Just go with tried and true brands with plenty of reviews and experience, BMR, Eibach, H&R etc I'm also iffy on swapping out the Magneride stuff, seems a bit overkill unless you go for an all-out track car, but just for the street, that's just money thrown away for nothing. You'd be better off swapping the rear cradle bushings and make the rear tighter than swapping out an already perfectly good shock system... __________________

10-14-2020, 10:43 AM	#11
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	one of our local guys just got his set and will be getting it on shortly interested to see what he says! __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

10-14-2020, 10:53 AM	#12
Thill444 Drives: 2020 SS1LE Shadow Gray Metallic Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: New England Posts: 294	Yeah I am skeptical. What is it that you don't like about the SS1LE suspension? Magnetic ride is an upgrade for these cars and GM has spent countless hours developing and testing it for our cars. What about the integration with the e-diff? If you just want the car to be slightly lower there are lowering springs that work with the magnetic dampers. If you are looking for better track performance, there are other mods you can try first.

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