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Old 03-11-2017, 08:56 AM   #15
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2.9 is whipple's bread and butter supercharger. Weapon X will figure out the right combo they are right now I'm sure sorting it out. He's giving you his data and it looks promising wait a bit for the fuel mods and the headers next get the right recipe on the tune and you're looking at over 750 rwhp all day. Now if you just want 100 rwhp and no room to grow spin the 1.7 harder and get a tune or leave blower alone get the arh or kooks, tune it and throw on an intake that should get you legit 75 plus hp.. it is good to have choices. That's what he's giving you.
Hey I love options and the fact Whipple jumped on board immediately for the C6 ZL1 and CTSV. Being a vette guy now, its been some time to see this actually come to fruition. That said there's been plenty of cheerleading and hyping by various vendors on claims with the blower. We all want real world data to validate us pissing away money.
I know I want data on the $6500 dollar blower being advertised in the title. Not a stage whatever Weapon X package. You won't go to Whipple, Procharger, Magnusson site etc and see you need this or that package to accomdate this and that.

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Weapon-X: This blower compresses 64% more air per revolution, so more power with less boost. Stock blower makes about 10-11psi, this at 11psi made nearly 100whp more!
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Weapon-X: We're still in the testing process, but the very fist pull with this wagon wheel pulley on it laid down over 600whp at 10psi without any timing in it at all
Stock it should have made between 540-560, so 600.....ish, that's a more realistic gain at stock boost numbers. Or is it? I mean if they have the supporting mods needed for a damn Escalade they should have it for the ZL1 and V.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486269

Don't kill the messenger, we just want more data and clarity
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:53 AM   #16
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Speaking for myself, numbers and how they were achieved are awesome! ROI for the price, meh. Felt the same about the intake thread.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:04 AM   #17
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Speaking for myself, numbers and how they were achieved are awesome! ROI for the price, meh. Felt the same about the intake thread.
This ^ maybe it is because I have spent more time around Ford's but I remember 13-14 GT500s picking up quite a bit of power with just bolt ons (CAI, throttle body, Pulley Swap and tune) I realize the LT4 is quite different from the 5.8 Trinity

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-t...t500-bolt-ons/

This GT500 picked up 70 RWHP and 93ft/lbs of torque from 1,500 bucks worth of bolt ons + whatever it cost for tuning
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Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:12 AM   #18
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Magazines lie but the trinity is a dohc 5.8 it doesn't run out of head anywhere and isn't cam sensitive. Same for the Termi 4.6. LS is different animal.
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Magazines lie but the trinity is a dohc 5.8 it doesn't run out of head anywhere and isn't cam sensitive. Same for the Termi 4.6. LS is different animal.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:23 PM   #20
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Will this fit a c7 z06? Would love a bigger PD blower to shred my tires and induce snap oversteer!

Same LT4, no?
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:38 PM   #21
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This ^ maybe it is because I have spent more time around Ford's but I remember 13-14 GT500s picking up quite a bit of power with just bolt ons (CAI, throttle body, Pulley Swap and tune) I realize the LT4 is quite different from the 5.8 Trinity

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-t...t500-bolt-ons/

This GT500 picked up 70 RWHP and 93ft/lbs of torque from 1,500 bucks worth of bolt ons + whatever it cost for tuning
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Magazines lie but the trinity is a dohc 5.8 it doesn't run out of head anywhere and isn't cam sensitive. Same for the Termi 4.6. LS is different animal.
The stock LT4 blower and platform responds well to bolt ons, hence the disappointment in some on here with the Whipple. The 1.7L when wound up puts down some impressive numbers. I expect the Whipple with similar mods to the stock blower to push into the 800+whp with matching or more torque which is NICE!


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Will this fit a c7 z06? Would love a bigger PD blower to shred my tires and induce snap oversteer!

Same LT4, no?
Whipple and vendors have been kicking this can down the road for over a year. Latest I heard was 6 months for a Z06 edition. May bolt up but hose routing and intake inlets are slightly different to my understanding.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:07 PM   #22
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Will this fit a c7 z06? Would love a bigger PD blower to shred my tires and induce snap oversteer!

Same LT4, no?
We're working with Whipple on this too and should have the first unit sometime this summer. They had to work it out on this platform before they revised it to clear the C7Z hood but I'll likely put on on my C7 too.

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Old 03-13-2017, 10:09 PM   #23
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Whipple has been blowing that smoke for too long....not holding my breathe
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:44 PM   #24
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So Weapon X stage 1 out performed the 2.9L Whipple @ 14-16lbs of boost Wow am I reading this wrong ? Stock boost on a CTSV is 10psi from the results looks like the Whipple would loose hp & Tq @ 10psi. I don't see why Weapon X used there products on a Whipple test but Thanks for posting ? looks like Whipples 1st blower of this design needs more work as there top mount 2.9L has much better results.


STOCK LT4 & WEAPON-X Stage 1 Intake VS. WEAPON-X.700 PACKAGE
Jeff's previous mods were a Stage 1 lower pulley, WEAPON-X Stage 1 intake, and our 6 gallon trunk tank system. With these mods he had a nice jump in power already.

This was a peak gain of +31whp and +23wtq.

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STOCK LT4 & WEAPON-X Stage 1 Intake VS. WHIPPLE 3.75" & WEAPON-X Stage 1 Intake
Next up, we took this back to the stock lower pulley and did all of the comparisons with our intake on so we'd have an apples to apples comparison. Due to the limitations of the stock air box, we left our intake on, and left the trunk tank connected but didn't ice it. The Whipple went on with the wagon wheel 3.75" upper pulley. As you can see, this lost a little mid-range torque but picked it back up over 5100 RPM. This is mostly due to that big Whipple being off the bottom of the efficiency map.

This was a peak gain of +35whp but a peak loss of -9wtq; however, there was a torque gain close to your shift point of approx +25wtq.
Boost started at 14psi and ended around 16psi
Timing was around 17*
Manifold Air was hot starting at 144* on this one, but ended at 142* as twin screws don't gain a ton of heat from start to finish when the efficiency
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:53 PM   #25
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What's the status of this Whipple?? It's rocking on the LT1, phenomenal results on damn near every application / car. Someone needs to get this build figured out.
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:45 PM   #26
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GForce Motorsports made:

910 rwhp / 889 rwtq on the 2.9 Whipple CTSV..
(Cam/meth/headers/14#/fuel system)

For those tired of waiting on this fleece deal of heads, pajamas, stickers and xxx Kit contents ..
This shows with FBO, meth and moderate boost all LT4 applications should be seeing 800-850 easy which is gonna get busyyyy.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:41 PM   #27
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WTF Whipple!? Still waiting on the c7 z06 LT4 system.............


Does it HAVE to be a Camaro??

Love Camaros...just dont currently have one.
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