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The work used to turn the alternator (or generator) will always be more than the output energy provided by the alternator. Input = Output + Losses. Output < Input, always.
EV motors can become generators and recharge during coasting/braking. That's what regenerative braking is. It's how the new Toyota RAV4 Prime gets such good fuel economy - it balances motor contribution and regen.
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This has not been GMs play here. At a minimum it would have 300 mile range. Check Lyriq and Blazer
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To theorize what the biggest issues were involving EV. Sure I'd rather have a V8 for fun like everyone else, but the idea that EV's are even remotely practical is more of a troll than anything I can come up with.
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Which is all you really need for a daily driver. Road trips more inconvenient in an EV but still very doable with fast charging.
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Honestly I'm not trying to troll, I'm just theory crafting if nothing else, but I guess some people don't enjoy doing that as much as I do.
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For most people yeah. I was just countering the statement of 300 mile range minimum with Blazer being referenced when the minimum for Blazer is actually 247 miles.
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RS = ? $64,000?
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Yep, which is probably more like 200 usable if you drive with a light foot in the city and stay at 65mph or less on the highway. It is no different in my ZL1. I am supposed to get 13mpg in the city but I get like 10.6mpg when I drive it.
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