Why does track mode feel slower?

RoninSS · 10-16-2019, 10:57 PM

Why does Track mode feel slower than sport mode?
Is the traction control more aggressive? or the throttle mapping different in track mode?
I have a SS 1LE and was playing around with the different track modes and all of them feel somewhat neutered compared to the normal sport mode.

LARRY01Z28 · 10-16-2019, 11:25 PM

I like sport mode the best as well. I don't know what mode your supposed to use for drag racing. but sport seems faster.

Need4Camaro · 10-17-2019, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RoninSS

Why does Track mode feel slower than sport mode?
Is the traction control more aggressive? or the throttle mapping different in track mode?
I have a SS 1LE and was playing around with the different track modes and all of them feel somewhat neutered compared to the normal sport mode.

Throttle Mapping is different in track and reserves the bulk of the power for WoT rather than spirited launches like Sports Mode. This is because on a track, while carving corners, you want as much control over the throttle as possible as if you outright brutely accelerated during a curve you could find yourself going sideways, or into a ditch. This allows you to safely maintain throttle as to lose as least amount of time as possible while still maintaining controlable throttle through a curve

Sports Mode basically puts you in the bulk of your powerband with much less throttle applied, but don't be fooled into thinking that its more powerful than Track Mode, it just means when you use 1/4th throttle in Sports mode, you're really using about half of the car's available power.

c4racer · 10-17-2019, 12:24 AM

I have only tried track mode a few times.

So are you saying it’s more linear throttle mapping vs sport ?

What about tq management ? Less aggressive ? More ? Same ?

MakCamaro · 10-17-2019, 03:57 AM

I use Sport mode as well when I do spirited driving. It does feel indeed better than Track mode, as it is definitely more responsive. From the information that I gathered from other threads, it seems that Track mode is reserved for the track or when engaging yourself in spirited driving on curvy roads. That's my understanding.

Gunkk · 10-17-2019, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by c4racer

I have only tried track mode a few times.

So are you saying it’s more linear throttle mapping vs sport ?

What about tq management ? Less aggressive ? More ? Same ?

Track mode has a more linear throttle map: 1/4 pedal = 1/4 throttle. Sport mode is more aggressive: 1/4 pedal = 1/3 throttle, etc.. #s for illustrative purposes.

Sport mode lets the rear wheels spin and break loose a little to give you a little more tail wag on the street. Track mode will be more aggressive at keeping your rear wheels from spinning, which keeps you safer at the limit and can make you faster. Breaking traction on a race track = bad juju.

Dysan911 · 10-17-2019, 06:58 AM

I have one of those Proclip Iphone mounts and find that when I rest my arm across the center console to do something with the phone I accidentally change the mode from Sport to Track. WOW what a difference that makes when you don't expect it. How quickly we can become familar with the way Sport feels and then to try and drive it in Track feels so strange.

I'm willing to bet if we drove around a week using Track we'd get used to it and adjust no problem but then I suppose Sport would feel like a huge power increase lol.

TRZ06 · 10-17-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Throttle Mapping is different in track and reserves the bulk of the power for WoT rather than spirited launches like Sports Mode. This is because on a track, while carving corners, you want as much control over the throttle as possible as if you outright brutely accelerated during a curve you could find yourself going sideways, or into a ditch. This allows you to safely maintain throttle as to lose as least amount of time as possible while still maintaining controlable throttle through a curve

Sports Mode basically puts you in the bulk of your powerband with much less throttle applied, but don't be fooled into thinking that its more powerful than Track Mode, it just means when you use 1/4th throttle in Sports mode, you're really using about half of the car's available power.

THIS!!!

The kicker is though, is in order to access the more aggressive E-Diff settings that help you around a track and tight corners better, you need to be in one of the PTM modes, which just happen to only be avail. in Track Mode settings, SO...

While I like Sport throttle mapping better for daily driving, anytime I do any kind of on/off ramps, canyon carving or back road twisty driving, I use Track Mode and PTM - Sport 1 mode.

There are 4 E-diff. calibrations based on the mode/sub modes you are in.

TJay74 · 10-17-2019, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TRZ06

THIS!!!

The kicker is though, is in order to access the more aggressive E-Diff settings that help you around a track and tight corners better, you need to be in one of the PTM modes, which just happen to only be avail. in Track Mode settings, SO...

While I like Sport throttle mapping better for daily driving, anytime I do any kind of on/off ramps, canyon carving or back road twisty driving, I use Track Mode and PTM - Sport 1 mode.

There are 4 E-diff. calibrations based on the mode/sub modes you are in.

You can be in Track or Sport mode and access the PTM settings, it works in either modes.

MakCamaro · 10-17-2019, 10:58 AM

Or use the Competitive mode for those of us who do not have an 1LE. I use the Competitive mode very often when I'm on Sport or Track mode.

DaveC113 · 10-17-2019, 11:18 AM

Track is way better for throttle modulation, but for me the throttle mapping is so different vs other modes I find it difficult to switch back and forth. So I always use track mode now, and manually adjust the steering and suspension settings. This kinda sucks because the car won't stay in track mode so I have to hit the mode button every time I start the engine.

Once you get used to track mode tour and sport seem weird and far too aggressive with the throttle. But they are nice because you don't have to move your foot that much.

Mighty Mouce · 10-17-2019, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoninSS

Why does Track mode feel slower than sport mode?
Is the traction control more aggressive? or the throttle mapping different in track mode?
I have a SS 1LE and was playing around with the different track modes and all of them feel somewhat neutered compared to the normal sport mode.

Yeh feels like the low end torque has been moved higher up or something.

Mighty Mouce · 10-17-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Throttle Mapping is different in track and reserves the bulk of the power for WoT rather than spirited launches like Sports Mode. This is because on a track, while carving corners, you want as much control over the throttle as possible as if you outright brutely accelerated during a curve you could find yourself going sideways, or into a ditch. This allows you to safely maintain throttle as to lose as least amount of time as possible while still maintaining controlable throttle through a curve

Sports Mode basically puts you in the bulk of your powerband with much less throttle applied, but don't be fooled into thinking that its more powerful than Track Mode, it just means when you use 1/4th throttle in Sports mode, you're really using about half of the car's available power.

Hmmph...yeh...I guess that makes sense.

DaveC113 · 10-17-2019, 12:12 PM

Car companies use throttle mapping to make the cars feel more powerful then they are... you're on a test drive and think "wow, the car really moves when I barely open the throttle!" Then after you own it... "Damn, the car is already at full throttle when the pedal is halfway down, and flooring it does nothing."

10-16-2019, 10:57 PM	#1
RoninSS Drives: 2019 SS1LE Garnet Red../Silver CL30 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 43	Why does track mode feel slower? Why does Track mode feel slower than sport mode? Is the traction control more aggressive? or the throttle mapping different in track mode? I have a SS 1LE and was playing around with the different track modes and all of them feel somewhat neutered compared to the normal sport mode.

10-17-2019, 06:58 AM	#7
Dysan911 Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary 2SS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 930	I have one of those Proclip Iphone mounts and find that when I rest my arm across the center console to do something with the phone I accidentally change the mode from Sport to Track. WOW what a difference that makes when you don't expect it. How quickly we can become familar with the way Sport feels and then to try and drive it in Track feels so strange. I'm willing to bet if we drove around a week using Track we'd get used to it and adjust no problem but then I suppose Sport would feel like a huge power increase lol. __________________ Former Ride: 17 Camaro 2SS, M6 - Fifty \| Procharger P1SC \| 3.7 Pulley \| Stage 2 IC \| Race Bypass \| DSX FF Kit \| JRE Custom E85 Flex Fuel Tune \| LT4 Fuel System \| JMS Voltage Booster \| MSD Plug Wires \| American Racing 1-7/8's LT Headers Full System Catback \| Baro Breakout Harness \| LT4 Map Sensor \| Katech Ported TB \| MMS Oil Catch Can \| 160 Thermo \| Solo Performance J-Pipes

10-17-2019, 11:18 AM	#11
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,865	Track is way better for throttle modulation, but for me the throttle mapping is so different vs other modes I find it difficult to switch back and forth. So I always use track mode now, and manually adjust the steering and suspension settings. This kinda sucks because the car won't stay in track mode so I have to hit the mode button every time I start the engine. Once you get used to track mode tour and sport seem weird and far too aggressive with the throttle. But they are nice because you don't have to move your foot that much. __________________

10-17-2019, 12:12 PM	#14
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,865	Car companies use throttle mapping to make the cars feel more powerful then they are... you're on a test drive and think "wow, the car really moves when I barely open the throttle!" Then after you own it... "Damn, the car is already at full throttle when the pedal is halfway down, and flooring it does nothing." __________________

10-16-2019, 11:25 PM	#2
LARRY01Z28 Drives: 2001Camaro Z28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: eubank KY Posts: 250	I like sport mode the best as well. I don't know what mode your supposed to use for drag racing. but sport seems faster.

10-17-2019, 12:24 AM	#4
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	I have only tried track mode a few times. So are you saying it’s more linear throttle mapping vs sport ? What about tq management ? Less aggressive ? More ? Same ?

10-17-2019, 03:57 AM	#5
MakCamaro Makis Drives: 2020 Red Hot ZL1 A10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: London - UK Posts: 806	I use Sport mode as well when I do spirited driving. It does feel indeed better than Track mode, as it is definitely more responsive. From the information that I gathered from other threads, it seems that Track mode is reserved for the track or when engaging yourself in spirited driving on curvy roads. That's my understanding.

10-17-2019, 10:58 AM	#10
MakCamaro Makis Drives: 2020 Red Hot ZL1 A10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: London - UK Posts: 806	Or use the Competitive mode for those of us who do not have an 1LE. I use the Competitive mode very often when I'm on Sport or Track mode.

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