long tube headers install, how difficult - Page 2

sage85z28 · 09-16-2020, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonZLE

American Racing Headers are the easiest to install on a 6th gen, In My Opinion

they go in without removing engine mounts like other brands.

Have any tips for the passenger side install? I’ve got mine on the lift, starter off, Chassis brace off and it still won’t go in from the top or bottom.

NYblack1le · 09-16-2020, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sage85z28

Have any tips for the passenger side install? I’ve got mine on the lift, starter off, Chassis brace off and it still won’t go in from the top or bottom.

Should go in easily through the bottom especially with the starter removed. I was able to remove just the heat shield on the starter and it slipped right in. What is obstructing you ?

sage85z28 · 09-16-2020, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NYblack1le

Should go in easily through the bottom especially with the starter removed. I was able to remove just the heat shield on the starter and it slipped right in. What is obstructing you ?

I have no idea, it’s pissing me off lol. I’ve watched YT vids, searched on here and I just don’t get it.

s346k · 09-17-2020, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sage85z28

I have no idea, it’s pissing me off lol. I’ve watched YT vids, searched on here and I just don’t get it.

did you try removing the valve cover? i had to remove the vc and starter on the pass side. speed engineering, 2" primary.

edit: installed from the top. on my car, no way, no how was it going in from the bottom without dropping the skid plate.

sage85z28 · 09-17-2020, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by s346k

did you try removing the valve cover? i had to remove the vc and starter on the pass side. speed engineering, 2" primary.

edit: installed from the top. on my car, no way, no how was it going in from the bottom without dropping the skid plate.

I’ll try that today, I removed the skid plate thinking that would do it but nope.

Darth Martel · 09-17-2020, 07:04 AM

you need to remove the plastic protective plate as well as the 2 other plastic coverings, and the aluminum plate with the bar. The aluminum plate swings down. If you don't have the car jacked up enough it won't swing enough to clear the hook holding it up. I just bent the hook to get it off and bent it back afterwards. From my understanding, removing the starter negates the need to remove the motor mount. I can't say for sure but, I removed the motor mount. The starter probably would have been the easier move but, removing the motor mount definitely made installing the passenger side header easier. I've got a write up in the DIY section that chronicles how I did everything.

NYblack1le · 09-17-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sage85z28

I have no idea, it’s pissing me off lol. I’ve watched YT vids, searched on here and I just don’t get it.

take a picture

Doc Oc · 09-17-2020, 08:55 AM

Surprised more people don't upgrade their mounts when putting in headers. Makes it much easier. I pulled the old mounts, put the headers in then put in the bmr mounts in about 5-6 hours on jackstands. No need to remove the steering or starter and came out with a much more solid feeling vehicle. Best $169 I ever spent. I did get lazy though and try to do it without removing the spark plugs. Don't make that mistake.

sage85z28 · 09-17-2020, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Oc

Surprised more people don't upgrade their mounts when putting in headers. Makes it much easier. I pulled the old mounts, put the headers in then put in the bmr mounts in about 5-6 hours on jackstands. No need to remove the steering or starter and came out with a much more solid feeling vehicle. Best $169 I ever spent. I did get lazy though and try to do it without removing the spark plugs. Don't make that mistake.

Solid or poly mounts from BMR?

Doc Oc · 09-17-2020, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sage85z28

Solid or poly mounts from BMR?

The solid ones with the poly bushing. Mm010 I think. Getting the old ones out was the most difficult part of the job, but once they're gone getting the headers in is a breeze and the bmr's install very easily.

sage85z28 · 09-17-2020, 11:19 AM

Does anyone know how much room is gained with just the MM009 mounts instead of the entire solid mount?

s346k · 09-17-2020, 07:31 PM

any luck? from the sound of it, you're probably going to order motor mounts, too haha. one of those -might as well- additions, i suppose.

sage85z28 · 09-18-2020, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by s346k

any luck? from the sound of it, you're probably going to order motor mounts, too haha. one of those -might as well- additions, i suppose.

Exactly that. I might as well go ahead and do the mounts now being that the exhaust is out of way, that should make for a easier install.

sage85z28 · 09-18-2020, 10:59 PM

I ordered the BMR MM010 mounts and I have to say I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t change them while they are doing headers. The install is very easy with the exhaust out of the way and makes installation of the headers a breeze.
Sorry about some of the pics being sideways, they aren’t that way in my phone.

09-17-2020, 07:04 AM	#20
Darth Martel Darth Martel Drives: Black 1SS with 20% tinted windows Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bizzaroland Posts: 1,496	you need to remove the plastic protective plate as well as the 2 other plastic coverings, and the aluminum plate with the bar. The aluminum plate swings down. If you don't have the car jacked up enough it won't swing enough to clear the hook holding it up. I just bent the hook to get it off and bent it back afterwards. From my understanding, removing the starter negates the need to remove the motor mount. I can't say for sure but, I removed the motor mount. The starter probably would have been the easier move but, removing the motor mount definitely made installing the passenger side header easier. I've got a write up in the DIY section that chronicles how I did everything. __________________ 2016 Black 1SS w/ MRC, low-gloss black wheels, auto trans. Self-created custom Dark Knight Edition accents. Rotofab CAI with dry filter and sound tube delete, PRAY ported intake manifold and throttle body, Texas Speed cam, Stainless Works headers and exhaust, Skid Mark garage E85 kit, JMS fuel pump voltage booster, Circle D torque converter. Custom E85/mod tune by Jannetty Racing.

09-17-2020, 08:55 AM	#22
Doc Oc Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: SC Posts: 185	Surprised more people don't upgrade their mounts when putting in headers. Makes it much easier. I pulled the old mounts, put the headers in then put in the bmr mounts in about 5-6 hours on jackstands. No need to remove the steering or starter and came out with a much more solid feeling vehicle. Best $169 I ever spent. I did get lazy though and try to do it without removing the spark plugs. Don't make that mistake. __________________ 2017 2SS A8 TSP LT's, ported msd/95 mm, e85

09-17-2020, 07:31 PM	#26
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,395	any luck? from the sound of it, you're probably going to order motor mounts, too haha. one of those -might as well- additions, i suppose. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

09-18-2020, 10:59 PM	#28
sage85z28 Drives: 2017 1SS cruiser/ 1985 Z28 racecar Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Annapolis MD Posts: 77	I ordered the BMR MM010 mounts and I have to say I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t change them while they are doing headers. The install is very easy with the exhaust out of the way and makes installation of the headers a breeze. Sorry about some of the pics being sideways, they aren’t that way in my phone. Attached Images

09-17-2020, 11:19 AM	#25
sage85z28 Drives: 2017 1SS cruiser/ 1985 Z28 racecar Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Annapolis MD Posts: 77	Does anyone know how much room is gained with just the MM009 mounts instead of the entire solid mount?

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