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06-07-2019, 07:47 AM
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Drives: 17 camaro ss Join Date: Mar 2018
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Ported MSD vs Non Ported
I've been looking for a thread about this and cant seem to find one. I'm trying to find out how much of an improvement you get with porting an MSD intake over just slapping it on.
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06-07-2019, 08:27 AM
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Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013
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Search Pray Porting he has posted many results before and after.
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06-07-2019, 08:29 AM
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06-07-2019, 08:33 AM
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RPM uses a ported msd on most their builds.
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06-07-2019, 10:32 AM
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Drives: 17 camaro ss Join Date: Mar 2018
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06-07-2019, 11:01 AM
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06-07-2019, 02:19 PM
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Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013
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His results are conflicting with other vendors. I wish we had more third party data on this
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06-08-2019, 03:31 PM
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Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Hilo, HI
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Pray's ported stuff has been show to work at many race tracks. IMO a ported MSD and large / ported TB is superior to a Pray ported stock stuff only after a decent sized cam and supporting mods (2" headers, CAI, ported heads, tune). I knew I was going to build the engine so I went with 103 TB and ported MSD from the get go.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-08-2019, 03:43 PM
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06-08-2019, 06:29 PM
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Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016
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FBO, I would say total area under the curve favors Pray's ported IM and TB. MSD probably and large TB probably makes more top end HP... I went to MSD and 103 TB from the get go. So maybe somebody that went from stock ported to MSD and large TB would chime in.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-14-2019, 06:56 AM
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 Drives: 2017 2SS M6 FIFTY @51fifft Join Date: May 2017
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From what I have read stock ported IM/TB = stock MSD. If you plan to go FBO I would go with Pray's ported MSD/95. If not go with the stock ported stuff. He's got cars in the low 11's with stock ported parts.
I went stock ported stuff, E85 , rotofab. will add headers soon.
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06-14-2019, 10:45 AM
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Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2011
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Also, consider the application. If you're a street/drag racer that lives a quarter mile at a time, get the ported MSD/95. If the car is a daily with occasional track use, you may want to stick with the stock ported stuff for improved low/mid range. I'm in CA, so keeping things 'stock looking' has value when pulling into the Carb station..
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06-15-2019, 05:33 PM
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Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017
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I am on the fence with ported stock or stock MSD. I think these cars already feel great below 4000 rpms, but above that it is lacking IMO. That's where it needs the most improvement, especially compared to a 5.0. Man are they proud of those MSD's though. The price of it buys headers/ypipe.
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