Roll bar question - Page 2

ninetres · 11-24-2017, 01:07 AM

Properly designed and installed bolt ins can be every bit as safe as a weld in. Weld ins can also puncture a floor.

That being said, either one is a death sentence in a street car driven without a helmet.

TrackClub · 11-24-2017, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetres

Properly designed and installed bolt ins can be every bit as safe as a weld in. Weld ins can also puncture a floor.

That being said, either one is a death sentence in a street car driven without a helmet.

Well said!

Chub2000 · 11-24-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetres

Properly designed and installed bolt ins can be every bit as safe as a weld in. Weld ins can also puncture a floor.

That being said, either one is a death sentence in a street car driven without a helmet.

Point taken. My car is primarily a track car.

PinHead · 11-27-2017, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetres

Properly designed and installed bolt ins can be every bit as safe as a weld in. Weld ins can also puncture a floor.

That being said, either one is a death sentence in a street car driven without a helmet AND HANS DEVICE.

Fixed it for ya

ninetres · 11-27-2017, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PinHead

Fixed it for ya

Thank you! Correct! I’d go a step further and say head restraint seat or device too. Someone was killed at Buttonwillow a couple years back in a caged race car after sliding into a flag tower pitched 90* sideways. VERY experienced driver too. Caged car. Racing seat. But that side impact is not neck friendly.

I have the RaceTech..... I think it’s the 4119. LOVVVVVEEEE IT. And feel very safe in it.

samwisemueller · 11-30-2017, 12:30 PM

I've got an RPM bolt in rollbar. Foot pads and sandwich plates are well designed but I agree about punch-thru risk especially where they bolt into the wheel wells. The floor mounting point it utilizes seems pretty robust, wheel well, not so much.

Chub2000 · 11-30-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by samwisemueller

I've got an RPM bolt in rollbar. Foot pads and sandwich plates are well designed but I agree about punch-thru risk especially where they bolt into the wheel wells. The floor mounting point it utilizes seems pretty robust, wheel well, not so much.

I just ordered a RPM rollbar too. Hopefully none of our concerns ever come into play..

driven2exceSS · 01-01-2018, 02:43 PM

Would the RPM be practical to install/remove as needed on a Vert for HPDE events?

Chub2000 · 01-01-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by driven2exceSS

Would the RPM be practical to install/remove as needed on a Vert for HPDE events?

Only if you dont mind removing and reinstalling your seats a lot..

driven2exceSS · 01-01-2018, 05:03 PM

Right. Have you completed your install? What would you expect the time frame to be on the Vert verses the coup? I honestly have not researched the removal process yet.

Chub2000 · 01-01-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by driven2exceSS

Right. Have you completed your install? What would you expect the time frame to be on the Vert verses the coup? I honestly have not researched the removal process yet.

I havnt recieved mine yet. It's supposed to ship this week. From what i understand it should take a couple hours to install.

seanblurr · 01-01-2018, 05:40 PM

Are you going to try to mount a 5 or 6 point harness with the stock seat?

Now with the ZL1, I like the idea of a roll bar more and more. Though I wouldn't personally do it unless I could use a 5/6pt. harness in addition to a fixed back seat. My concern then has to do with the airbag system and tricking the car into believing the system is good to go despite the removal of the seat. Without all these, I have to wonder if the car would actually be less safe than if I had just left everything stock. Thoughts?

I also kind of like the idea of having a/c and heated seats in my track monster

Chub2000 · 01-01-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by seanblurr

Are you going to try to mount a 5 or 6 point harness with the stock seat?

Now with the ZL1, I like the idea of a roll bar more and more. Though I wouldn't personally do it unless I could use a 5/6pt. harness in addition to a fixed back seat. My concern then has to do with the airbag system and tricking the car into believing the system is good to go despite the removal of the seat. Without all these, I have to wonder if the car would actually be less safe than if I had just left everything stock. Thoughts?

I also kind of like the idea of having a/c and heated seats in my track monster

I had the same thoughts and concerns, but in the end i decided to add the roll bar, racing seats and 6pt harnesses. Hopefully im making the right decision.
Here is the seat that I've gone with. It has removable halo sections, in case i want to drive on the street too.

seanblurr · 01-01-2018, 06:53 PM

That's a good idea. What seat mounts are you going with? Just going to handle the Airbag warning light all the time? I wonder if a simple resistor could mitigate the problem.

11-30-2017, 12:30 PM	#20
samwisemueller Drives: 2015 Z06, 2017 1LE (possibly) Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: NoVA Posts: 89	I've got an RPM bolt in rollbar. Foot pads and sandwich plates are well designed but I agree about punch-thru risk especially where they bolt into the wheel wells. The floor mounting point it utilizes seems pretty robust, wheel well, not so much. __________________ 2017 Red Hot 1LE - Corsa Xtreme Exhaust - Borla Mid Pipe - K&N Intake -Stock Otherwise! For now...

01-01-2018, 02:43 PM	#22
driven2exceSS Drives: 2016 2SS BLK A8 Vert Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: MA Posts: 1,029	Would the RPM be practical to install/remove as needed on a Vert for HPDE events? __________________ NPP, MRC, Tinted side & rear reflectors, OEM ZL1 Rockers / 3rd Brake / Darken tail lights, OEM Blk rear splash guards, Satin hood wrap, Fuse pull, Sound tube delete, Cat delete, Ported 95 TB, Ported MSD IM, Dry RotoFab, ARH 1 7/8 headers, E85, "Performance Dyno" Tune, BMR "pieces", "Track" alignment, Hawk DCT-70/70's w/SRF, Goodridge lines, Ti shims, Red powdered calipers, 18" APEX SM-10's w/ Pirelli DH's, FE4 Vert swaybars, Brake cooling ducts, ATI 10% UD, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM 1LE Splitter w/APR Ext., Velossa BIG MOUTH Ram Air, CF QA1, ZLE brakes(F)

01-01-2018, 05:03 PM	#24
driven2exceSS Drives: 2016 2SS BLK A8 Vert Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: MA Posts: 1,029	Right. Have you completed your install? What would you expect the time frame to be on the Vert verses the coup? I honestly have not researched the removal process yet. __________________ NPP, MRC, Tinted side & rear reflectors, OEM ZL1 Rockers / 3rd Brake / Darken tail lights, OEM Blk rear splash guards, Satin hood wrap, Fuse pull, Sound tube delete, Cat delete, Ported 95 TB, Ported MSD IM, Dry RotoFab, ARH 1 7/8 headers, E85, "Performance Dyno" Tune, BMR "pieces", "Track" alignment, Hawk DCT-70/70's w/SRF, Goodridge lines, Ti shims, Red powdered calipers, 18" APEX SM-10's w/ Pirelli DH's, FE4 Vert swaybars, Brake cooling ducts, ATI 10% UD, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM 1LE Splitter w/APR Ext., Velossa BIG MOUTH Ram Air, CF QA1, ZLE brakes(F) Last edited by driven2exceSS; 01-01-2018 at 05:05 PM. Reason: Grammar

01-01-2018, 05:40 PM	#26
seanblurr Drives: ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,297	Are you going to try to mount a 5 or 6 point harness with the stock seat? Now with the ZL1, I like the idea of a roll bar more and more. Though I wouldn't personally do it unless I could use a 5/6pt. harness in addition to a fixed back seat. My concern then has to do with the airbag system and tricking the car into believing the system is good to go despite the removal of the seat. Without all these, I have to wonder if the car would actually be less safe than if I had just left everything stock. Thoughts? I also kind of like the idea of having a/c and heated seats in my track monster __________________

01-01-2018, 06:53 PM	#28
seanblurr Drives: ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,297	That's a good idea. What seat mounts are you going with? Just going to handle the Airbag warning light all the time? I wonder if a simple resistor could mitigate the problem. __________________

11-24-2017, 01:07 AM	#15
ninetres Drives: Crush ZLE M6 \| 2000 Corvette FRC Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cencal Posts: 1,659	Properly designed and installed bolt ins can be every bit as safe as a weld in. Weld ins can also puncture a floor. That being said, either one is a death sentence in a street car driven without a helmet.

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