2019 SS A10, how is it?

lewisd · 10-23-2018, 03:32 PM

Dying to hear! When shifting manually, is the A10 more responsive than the A8? It feels like it's an eternity from flipping the paddle and anything actually happening with the A8 in my 2016. Anyone gone from a 2016-2018 A8 to a 2019 A10 to be able to directly compare?

Mitt11 · 10-23-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisd

Dying to hear! When shifting manually, is the A10 more responsive than the A8? It feels like it's an eternity from flipping the paddle and anything actually happening with the A8 in my 2016. Anyone gone from a 2016-2018 A8 to a 2019 A10 to be able to directly compare?

Comparing my 2016 A8 to my 2019 A10, the A10 is worth every penny. It's not perfect, and it isn't instantaneous, but it is fast enough and works well enough to impress me.

The two areas I've noticed is that if you click the shifter as fast as you can to lets say run from 5th to 9th, the RPMs don't keep up.

The other issus is when youre coming to a stop, it is near impossible to down shift, brake and still come to a smooth stop. Its either me or the car, but it is difficult to come to a smooth stop in manual shift mode.

Automatic mode is incredible. No hunting for gears, silky smooth, and fast as I could have hoped for.

Riverside2SS · 10-23-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitt11

Comparing my 2016 A8 to my 2019 A10, the A10 is worth every penny. It's not perfect, and it isn't instantaneous, but it is fast enough and works well enough to impress me.

The two areas I've noticed is that if you click the shifter as fast as you can to lets say run from 5th to 9th, the RPMs don't keep up.

The other issus is when youre coming to a stop, it is near impossible to down shift, brake and still come to a smooth stop. Its either me or the car, but it is difficult to come to a smooth stop in manual shift mode.

Automatic mode is incredible. No hunting for gears, silky smooth, and fast as I could have hoped for.

Completely agree....difficult to downshift in manual mode and stay smooth, but in auto mode the transmission is very smooth and shifts quickly. Car gets to 90-100 before you know it, so be careful out there...

TJay74 · 10-24-2018, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lewisd

Dying to hear! When shifting manually, is the A10 more responsive than the A8? It feels like it's an eternity from flipping the paddle and anything actually happening with the A8 in my 2016. Anyone gone from a 2016-2018 A8 to a 2019 A10 to be able to directly compare?

I like the A10, I rode in a new Ford Raptor with it and as said that transmission in auto more and sport mode shifts really well. In the Raptor it will dang near bark the tires on a WOT upshift.

The A8 is easily fixed, I adjusted the shift times on the A8 that is in my 2016 Sierra. Shifts are now more firm and alot quicker than before, the feeling of the transmission hunting on downshifts is completely gone now.

A tune will do wonders for the A8 transmission.

z28pat · 10-24-2018, 09:30 AM

So the question begs, is the car quicker with the a10?

TJay74 · 10-24-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by z28pat

So the question begs, is the car quicker with the a10?

If both the A8 and the A10 are shifting correctly with a car with the same engine and rear end ratio, then yes the A10 will be quicker as it keeps the engine in the meat of the powerband.

Memphis SS · 10-24-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TJay74

If both the A8 and the A10 are shifting correctly with a car with the same engine and rear end ratio, then yes the A10 will be quicker as it keeps the engine in the meat of the powerband.

I was thinking the same thing,, Now I wonder by how much? I haven't seen any 0-60 specs from GM. Has anyone seen anything official?

Stroked84 · 10-27-2018, 02:35 PM

Where are the damn CarAndDriver reviews? Dying to see how YouTube reviewers compare the two transmissions.

Mountain · 10-27-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitt11

Comparing my 2016 A8 to my 2019 A10, the A10 is worth every penny. It's not perfect, and it isn't instantaneous, but it is fast enough and works well enough to impress me.

The two areas I've noticed is that if you click the shifter as fast as you can to lets say run from 5th to 9th, the RPMs don't keep up.

The other issus is when youre coming to a stop, it is near impossible to down shift, brake and still come to a smooth stop. Its either me or the car, but it is difficult to come to a smooth stop in manual shift mode.

Automatic mode is incredible. No hunting for gears, silky smooth, and fast as I could have hoped for.

Have you tried holding the downshift paddle down as you slow/come to a stop? Chevy has their system setup to automatically downshift to the lowest gear, automatically, if you hold the downshift paddle. The Mustang doesn’t do this (at least the 2018’s Ive driven).

Done this with the A8 and it works well.

Mitt11 · 10-27-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain

Have you tried holding the downshift paddle down as you slow/come to a stop? Chevy has their system setup to automatically downshift to the lowest gear, automatically, if you hold the downshift paddle. The Mustang doesn’t do this (at least the 2018’s Ive driven).

Done this with the A8 and it works well.

I think it is an issue of the car trying to engine brake. If I let it rev too high while downshifting the car engine brakes, while I'm also braking, resulting in a less than smooth stop.

ChangerOfWays · 10-27-2018, 04:23 PM

I read on here awhile back about jerky behavior when trying to downshift when coming to a stop and a tip was given to just downshift to 3rd, and let the car automatically downshift the rest of the way to 1st. Been doing that ever since and haven't had anymore issues.

craigss50 · 10-27-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain

Have you tried holding the downshift paddle down as you slow/come to a stop? Chevy has their system setup to automatically downshift to the lowest gear, automatically, if you hold the downshift paddle. The Mustang doesn’t do this (at least the 2018’s Ive driven).

Done this with the A8 and it works well.

or just blip the throttle and it will do the same. Love that feature.

Artos · 10-27-2018, 05:08 PM

Keep playing with it & you will learn the sweet spot for smoother manual downshifts...it gets trickier the more abrupt the stops are from speed & finding the window with the rpm being the key. It's really the same with acceleration & for mine, it either got smoother as it got more miles or I got better at it??

One thing to try is while keeping it in manual & slowing down, let the car down shift on its own & see if you can get a feel & mimic the timing...I've just learned to do it by trial & error but thinking it may give a starting point or reference. Not that it matters but I personally never use the paddles & prefer using the knob. I also tend to enjoy the subtle burps & play with slightly aggressive shifts too.

Maybe I'm all wet & each power plant / A10 programming varies, but can't imagine them being all that different in regards to finding said smoothness for both spirited & DD?? Good luck, but I don't ever expect to be as good as the computer.

hotlap · 10-27-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stroked84

Where are the damn CarAndDriver reviews? Dying to see how YouTube reviewers compare the two transmissions.

I’m also interest to see how owners do at the strip.

10-23-2018, 03:32 PM	#1
lewisd Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 79	2019 SS A10, how is it? Dying to hear! When shifting manually, is the A10 more responsive than the A8? It feels like it's an eternity from flipping the paddle and anything actually happening with the A8 in my 2016. Anyone gone from a 2016-2018 A8 to a 2019 A10 to be able to directly compare? __________________ Current stable: 2019 Camaro 2SS (same as 2016 but 10AT) 2014 Subaru WRX (Satin White Pearl, Kenwood Carplay headunit) Past stable: 2016 Camaro 2SS (8AT, NPP Dual Mode Exhaust, Magride, sunroof, Summit White, black metallic center stripe, Adrenaline Red interior trim) 1990 Mazda Miata (too many mods to list) 1988 Mazda 323 Wagon (With 323 GTX motor!) 1987 Monte Carlo SS (Grey on grey, gunmetal-grey painted GTA wheels, lowered, dual exhaust, and much more) 2006 Subaru Impreza 1981 G20 Van (3-tone brown, shag/velvet interior)

10-24-2018, 09:30 AM	#5
z28pat Drives: 2002 z28, 2018 2ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 835	So the question begs, is the car quicker with the a10?

10-27-2018, 02:35 PM	#8
Stroked84 Drives: Nothing fun, currently. Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Fort Myers, Florida Posts: 71	Where are the damn CarAndDriver reviews? Dying to see how YouTube reviewers compare the two transmissions.

10-27-2018, 04:23 PM	#11
ChangerOfWays Drives: 2017 2LT RS Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 97	I read on here awhile back about jerky behavior when trying to downshift when coming to a stop and a tip was given to just downshift to 3rd, and let the car automatically downshift the rest of the way to 1st. Been doing that ever since and haven't had anymore issues.

10-27-2018, 05:08 PM	#13
Artos Drives: A10 LT4 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Deep South TX Posts: 1,094	Keep playing with it & you will learn the sweet spot for smoother manual downshifts...it gets trickier the more abrupt the stops are from speed & finding the window with the rpm being the key. It's really the same with acceleration & for mine, it either got smoother as it got more miles or I got better at it?? One thing to try is while keeping it in manual & slowing down, let the car down shift on its own & see if you can get a feel & mimic the timing...I've just learned to do it by trial & error but thinking it may give a starting point or reference. Not that it matters but I personally never use the paddles & prefer using the knob. I also tend to enjoy the subtle burps & play with slightly aggressive shifts too. Maybe I'm all wet & each power plant / A10 programming varies, but can't imagine them being all that different in regards to finding said smoothness for both spirited & DD?? Good luck, but I don't ever expect to be as good as the computer.

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