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Old 05-21-2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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polishing advice

Hi all, I have a 2018 ZL1 Night Fall Grey. Love it.

Would like to apply Jescar power lock + and then collinite 845.

Currently I wash by hand once a week with Megs wash and wax, then dry with microfiber, apply CG eco smart to take out any water spots, apply PB world Black hole glaze (for car shows only), then CG butter wet wax with DA.
(I think it looks amazing after).

I would like to polish the car using something with light abrasives as the paint still looks great and then apply Power lock and then collinite.

What polish do you recommend and with what pad?
Should I do clay bar first then polish?
What steps would you take?

Obviously ceramics is becoming more and more popular but I really enjoy the time inspecting the car and making it pop. Whole wash takes me about 2hours and I love every minute.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:21 PM   #2
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Meguiar's 205 and a white pad.

Yes you must clay bar first.

Wash, clay, polish, seal, wax.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:35 PM   #3
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Meguiar's 205 and a white pad.

Yes you must clay bar first.

Wash, clay, polish, seal, wax.

Thank you!
Do you think there is any benefit to applying glaze prior to sealant?
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:47 PM   #4
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Thank you!
Do you think there is any benefit to applying glaze prior to sealant?
I don't think there is. Glaze is good for the car show, but it lasts about that long- a weekend.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:49 PM   #5
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Glaze is meant to fill swirls and if you have just polished, there is no need for filling swirls.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:50 AM   #6
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if your doing powerlock + 845, why not look at the jescar finishing polish? assuming it is easy enough for you to source.
if you're looking for something easy to source, meguiars ultimate polish is a good one to start with. its the consumer version of 205 and works quite well.

agreed, no glaze first.
wash, clay, polish, ipa, seal, wax (if desired)

i added IPA simply so that you get any polish residue or greases off the car prior to sealing.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:13 AM   #7
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if your doing powerlock + 845, why not look at the jescar finishing polish? assuming it is easy enough for you to source.
if you're looking for something easy to source, meguiars ultimate polish is a good one to start with. its the consumer version of 205 and works quite well.

agreed, no glaze first.
wash, clay, polish, ipa, seal, wax (if desired)

i added IPA simply so that you get any polish residue or greases off the car prior to sealing.


I was just looking at Jescar finishing polish as well.
Will need to do more research to see others results with it but looks good so far.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:20 AM   #8
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fairly confident it is another menzerna, just like powerlock used to be. they make a lot of great polishes, menzerna labelled, jescar, blackfire ... among many.

all good stuff.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:26 AM   #9
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I take a little bit a different philosopy in polishing and detailing in general. It's not about the products, everybody makes good stuff. It's all about the procedure/technique and the tools you use. Go over to the how to videos on auto geek to learn what they have to say about pads, polishes, and polishers It's a combination of the 3, that makes a good job. In this case on a new car, finishing polish, a good solid pad and technique will get you a jewel like finish. With the best products and the most expensive polisher, bad technique will still get you a bad result.

https://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html
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I take a little bit a different philosopy in polishing and detailing in general. It's not about the products, everybody makes good stuff. It's all about the procedure/technique and the tools you use. Go over to the how to videos on auto geek to learn what they have to say about pads, polishes, and polishers It's a combination of the 3, that makes a good job. In this case on a new car, finishing polish, a good solid pad and technique will get you a jewel like finish. With the best products and the most expensive polisher, bad technique will still get you a bad result.

https://www.autogeek.net/detailingtips.html
I agree with you.
The only experience/practice that I have is on my grey 2012 Honda Accord using CG VSS on the hood and trunk. Came out looking great but know I could go slower for better results. Going to do more practice over the next month on the rest of that car and maybe my sons 2013 SS as it could use a good polishing too then I will graduate to my ZL1 and use something like m205 or Jescar finishing polish.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:52 AM   #11
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I agree with you.
The only experience/practice that I have is on my grey 2012 Honda Accord using CG VSS on the hood and trunk. Came out looking great but know I could go slower for better results. Going to do more practice over the next month on the rest of that car and maybe my sons 2013 SS as it could use a good polishing too then I will graduate to my ZL1 and use something like m205 or Jescar finishing polish.
I recommended M205 because it is easiest for the beginner to use. There ARE a lot of good products, but there are many different types of abrasives/abrasive technology. Some of them require more work time than others, some work better with certain pads (microfiber vs foam), some dust much more than others, etc, etc, etc.

M205 is solid with any pad and doesnt require you to work it until it disappears/dusts/hazes, etc like many polishes instruct.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:40 AM   #12
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To be honest I have a 16 SS NFG and m205 and foam did not produce decent results on my first polish since I have had the car. If you want to go over the car ONCE try out D300 and a MF pad. In the pic the car has a weeks worth of dust on it too XD
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:48 AM   #13
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A polish like Essence is real good if you don't have any scratches or imperfections that need a compound to correct, Essence has some light abrasives while also putting a light coat of silica sealant on the paint as well...then you can top with something like Reload or another Silica sealant.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:51 AM   #14
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A polish like Essence is real good if you don't have any scratches or imperfections that need a compound to correct, Essence has some light abrasives while also putting a light coat of silica sealant on the paint as well...then you can top with something like Reload or another Silica sealant.
I plan to put a few coats of cquartz on soon so i will probably go over with essence before that.
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