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Old 11-25-2021, 10:54 PM   #113
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No, you're too focused on the exhaust. The cats aren't the only emission system parts on the car, not by a long shot. Modern engines - especially the ones with direct injection - have issues such as carbon buildup on the intake valves due to oil vapor in the intake (PCV system and no wet gasoline to wash the vapor deposits off the valves). Dexos 2 is less likely to cause that kind of buildup, and the same goes for carbon in the chambers and on the compressor fins of a turbo. IOW, when the oil does burn, it burns cleaner and with less emissions of its own. And it reduces sludge buildup in colder parts of the engine. It's all emissions related. Also, DI engines have more problems with washdown of the cylinder walls and gasoline getting into the oil. So Dexos 2 oil also has to meet the most stringent anti-wear standards ever placed on motor oils.
This is why ESP formula. It is a low SAPS oil, meaning that it doesn't leave deposits or has reduced deposits. Important in direct injected engines, the intake valves especially. If you are looking for an alternate then look for oils with the European ACEA C3 rating.
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Old 11-25-2021, 10:59 PM   #114
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No, you're too focused on the exhaust. The cats aren't the only emission system parts on the car, not by a long shot. Modern engines - especially the ones with direct injection - have issues such as carbon buildup on the intake valves due to oil vapor in the intake (PCV system and no wet gasoline to wash the vapor deposits off the valves). Dexos 2 is less likely to cause that kind of buildup, and the same goes for carbon in the chambers and on the compressor fins of a turbo. IOW, when the oil does burn, it burns cleaner and with less emissions of its own. And it reduces sludge buildup in colder parts of the engine. It's all emissions related. Also, DI engines have more problems with washdown of the cylinder walls and gasoline getting into the oil. So Dexos 2 oil also has to meet the most stringent anti-wear standards ever placed on motor oils.This is why ESP formula. It is a low SAPS oil, meaning that doesn't leave deposits. Important in direct injected engines, the intake valves especially.
If you are looking for an alternate then look for oils with the European ACEA C3 rating.
THIS! Why is it so hard for people to just use the recommended oil?!?!?!? The engineers recommend it, 99.9% of us are not Automotive Engineers, why not just do what they recommend??? OEM Oil, OEM Oil Filer... Ain't rocket science... Mobil1 0W-40 ESP Formula and a PF64 ACDelco filter... Ain't that hard...
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Old 11-26-2021, 12:23 AM   #115
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THIS! Why is it so hard for people to just use the recommended oil?!?!?!? The engineers recommend it, 99.9% of us are not Automotive Engineers, why not just do what they recommend??? OEM Oil, OEM Oil Filer... Ain't rocket science... Mobil1 0W-40 ESP Formula and a PF64 ACDelco filter... Ain't that hard...
For a completely stock car I agree use what the manual recommends. Now if the motor is modified that's a different story.
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:15 AM   #116
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For a completely stock car I agree use what the manual recommends. Now if the motor is modified that's a different story.
Well if the motor is modified then your warranty is out the window so do whatever you please... But all these guys coming up with all this other stuff as what to do (except what the manufacture recommends) for whatever reason, really??? What is the point??? If you want your powertrain warranty, follow the manufactures warranty, if you are smarter than the manufacture and have other ideas, great, just don't expect the to warranty any issues you come across... Either do as they say or do what you will, the later may cost you some money but that is your choice...
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:45 PM   #117
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Well if the motor is modified then your warranty is out the window so do whatever you please... But all these guys coming up with all this other stuff as what to do (except what the manufacture recommends) for whatever reason, really??? What is the point??? If you want your powertrain warranty, follow the manufactures warranty, if you are smarter than the manufacture and have other ideas, great, just don't expect the to warranty any issues you come across... Either do as they say or do what you will, the later may cost you some money but that is your choice...
It's amusing to me some of the things people will do to their car. Kinda like the ones who put in aftermarket Cold Air Intakes then have powertrain troubles and come here and complain that their dealership would not fix it under warranty.
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