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Old 10-20-2016, 02:44 PM   #29
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Wow. Haters already.
So we gonna start a forum section just for "Real" Camaro guys?
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Old 10-20-2016, 02:55 PM   #30
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Wow. Haters already.
So we gonna start a forum section just for "Real" Camaro guys?
lol you talking to me or the other guy?
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:51 PM   #31
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well are you looking at them for ride comfort and to lower it or for track use?

if the afe power ones are anything like the 5th gen ones ill be super happy lol

http://afepower.com/afe-power-430-40...oilover-system
Agreed. These will certainly be on the higher end for performance and track use.

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the reviews I've read for the BC's when used on the track - the reviews are not very favorable. One review actually showed a significantly slower lap time with the BC's versus another shock (billstein, I think). BC's were something like 4 seconds slower per lap.

That's huge. People in the wheel and tire section are trying to get a 2 second increase with different wheels and tires - which can cost every bit as much as coil overs.

If I'm going to go through the time and expense of doing this - it's better to do it right, the first time.

something I've seen over and over again is people focus on looks before performance. Talking about "stance" and "tire gap" and a bunch of bullshit. Maybe those are the people who buy low end suspension products and end up happy with them? I'm not sure.
If you'll notice, I said BC Custom, not the standard BC BR that you're most likely referring to. The BC Custom can run Swift springs and custom valving matched to the springs at whatever rates you're looking for.
This is a huge improvement over the OTS BC's that most folks order, and at about $400 more in price. So worth it to me.

But this also goes towards intended use as was brought up earlier.
For me, the Camaro is a DD with maybe 1-2 HPDE's and an occasional friendly run at the drag strip along with spirited canyon driving.

I already have a track car that is set up specifically for that one purpose, and sucks as a DD.

Over the past few years I've setup and installed 8-10 different suspension setups on various cars. I'm not a novice by any stretch. Do your research and go with what's right for you.

Oh, and my initial review of the BC Custom Extreme Drop on my wife's car. 2015 Beetle Vert. Lowered 3". 10k/9k Swift.
Ride quality is like stock but with substantially reduced body roll. Perfect for a DD with occasional bouts through the canyon. But that's the benefit of custom valving. We ordered EXACTLY what we wanted.
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:53 PM   #32
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lol you talking to me or the other guy?
LOL. I'm guessing the other guy.
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Old 10-20-2016, 04:42 PM   #33
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LOL. I'm guessing the other guy.
haha me too but wasnt sure
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Old 10-21-2016, 04:56 PM   #35
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kw told me they will have kw v3 available after sema part#35261028 mrc 35261027 non mrc $2449.99 MSRP


http://docs.kwsuspension.de/ea-KWGFwEA-h68661027.pdf

bc coilovers told me they will have them out soon
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Old 10-21-2016, 06:34 PM   #36
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Ridetech told me they will be developing coilovers for the 6th Gen....ummm....soon!!!! Not sure what "soon" means, but doubt it will be "very soon", but either way.....I'M WILLING TO WAIT!!! I installed a set of Ridetech's on a friends 5th Gen, the quality and workmanship was INCREDIBLE!!!
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Old 10-22-2016, 12:02 AM   #37
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kw told me they will have kw v3 available after sema part#35261028 mrc 35261027 non mrc $2449.99 MSRP


http://docs.kwsuspension.de/ea-KWGFwEA-h68661027.pdf
I cannot figure out the measurement stuff. What is the adjustment range on these? It says refer to table 3..... What table 3? And I can read German pretty good.........
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I cannot figure out the measurement stuff. What is the adjustment range on these? It says refer to table 3..... What table 3? And I can read German pretty good.........
Looks like 20mm front and 15mm rear based on the chart. But that doesn't seem like much.
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Looks like 20mm front and 15mm rear based on the chart. But that doesn't seem like much.
That is what I was thinking when I read it, it sounded low to me, hence my confusion. Must be a case of lost in translation. I would think a coilover set up would give you at least 30mm -40mm if not more.
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That is what I was thinking when I read it, it sounded low to me, hence my confusion. Must be a case of lost in translation. I would think a coilover set up would give you at least 30mm -40mm if not more.
I agree. But is seems pretty clear based on the information provided.
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Agreed. These will certainly be on the higher end for performance and track use.



If you'll notice, I said BC Custom, not the standard BC BR that you're most likely referring to. The BC Custom can run Swift springs and custom valving matched to the springs at whatever rates you're looking for.
This is a huge improvement over the OTS BC's that most folks order, and at about $400 more in price. So worth it to me.

But this also goes towards intended use as was brought up earlier.
For me, the Camaro is a DD with maybe 1-2 HPDE's and an occasional friendly run at the drag strip along with spirited canyon driving.

I already have a track car that is set up specifically for that one purpose, and sucks as a DD.

Over the past few years I've setup and installed 8-10 different suspension setups on various cars. I'm not a novice by any stretch. Do your research and go with what's right for you.

Oh, and my initial review of the BC Custom Extreme Drop on my wife's car. 2015 Beetle Vert. Lowered 3". 10k/9k Swift.
Ride quality is like stock but with substantially reduced body roll. Perfect for a DD with occasional bouts through the canyon. But that's the benefit of custom valving. We ordered EXACTLY what we wanted.
Thanks for the feedback.

It looks like we'll soon have several more options available to us.

I really want adjustable compression and rebound. better to have it and not need it than the opposite.
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:51 PM   #42
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bump! anybody order some yet and get them on your car?
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