Newest video of Z28 at the Nurburgring - 2+ minutes - Page 3

oakaro68 · 05-19-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

Ya know....it's so much fun s*%# talking and speculating on this car I ALMOST don't want them to release it.

So true. I'm addicted to the anticipation. But seriously, what's in this thing?!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-19-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oakaro68

So true. I'm addicted to the anticipation. But seriously, what's in this thing?!

A really good question.

It seems that the issue with emissions stems from startup emissions. The bigger displacement of an engine, the more torque it makes...the harder it is to meet those emissions standards.

GM has already said this was a problem and chose to do a supercharged 8 for the Z06, which would have made the most sense to push for a N/A engine...

So...I am imagining not a big-displacement "LT7"...but rather a high-revving, hot-cam LT1. 7000+ rpm, 550+ peak hp.

Thor142 · 05-19-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

A really good question.

It seems that the issue with emissions stems from startup emissions. The bigger displacement of an engine, the more torque it makes...the harder it is to meet those emissions standards.

GM has already said this was a problem and chose to do a supercharged 8 for the Z06, which would have made the most sense to push for a N/A engine...

So...I am imagining not a big-displacement "LT7"...but rather a high-revving, hot-cam LT1. 7000+ rpm, 550+ peak hp.

It's the LT4. I'll bet you a beer at Buffalo Brew Pub.

Raven87 · 05-19-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

A really good question.

It seems that the issue with emissions stems from startup emissions. The bigger displacement of an engine, the more torque it makes...the harder it is to meet those emissions standards.

GM has already said this was a problem and chose to do a supercharged 8 for the Z06, which would have made the most sense to push for a N/A engine...

So...I am imagining not a big-displacement "LT7"...but rather a high-revving, hot-cam LT1. 7000+ rpm, 550+ peak hp.

That's a very good guess. I'm with you on that.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-19-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

It's the LT4. I'll bet you a beer at Buffalo Brew Pub.

Deal! I'll hold you to that!

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Originally Posted by Raven87

That's a very good guess. I'm with you on that.

I figure....it's not different enough to tick off the Z06 people...and yet...might be just right for this new lighter chassis in Z/28 form. We could very well be looking at a 3550lb, 550hp track monster.

chrisvr6 · 05-19-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HumanWiki

I hear 0 whine. Only air and tire noises..
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and some birds

mjk3888 · 05-19-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

It's the LT4. I'll bet you a beer at Buffalo Brew Pub.

Yep I would bet on a S/C engine too. Not positive it will be called the LT4, but I literally mentioned in one of the other thread, I would rock a pink hood wrap on my 1LE for a week if this thing doesn't come with a S/C motor.

Thor142 · 05-19-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mjk3888

Yep I would bet on a S/C engine too. Not positive it will be called the LT4, but I literally mentioned in one of the other thread, I would rock a pink hood wrap on my 1LE for a week if this thing doesn't come with a S/C motor.

The only thing I'm absolutely positive of is that Buffalo Brew Pub has some awesome micro brews on tap and the shepherds pie is to die for. So I don't mind so much losing the bet to Wyndam. However I'm fairly certain Camaro isn't launching the latest HIPO NA engine.

Raven87 · 05-19-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mjk3888

Yep I would bet on a S/C engine too. Not positive it will be called the LT4, but I literally mentioned in one of the other thread, I would rock a pink hood wrap on my 1LE for a week if this thing doesn't come with a S/C motor.

Better order the wrap now...

Bhobbs · 05-19-2016, 12:53 PM

If it's blown, it's the LT4. They won't put more power in the Camaro and there's no point in putting an engine with less power if you have to deal with the weight and heat of a supercharged engine.

HumanWiki · 05-19-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

Here's a thread of an early ZL1 ring video - we are getting the same results from these, some hear it, some don't. I am not as certain, but I did hear a very similar whine I heard in the video in thread below...can't say for sure, but i'm leaning towards it is an S/C motor in the Z/28, but for sure we won't have any consensus - will have to wait for GM to tell us.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423543

I don't hear whine in that one, but I'm at work on my crappy headset and most times in that one, when the car was facing the camera it wasn't at WOT or was outright braking.

I don't much care either way if it's FI or NA. I think either way will be fun. I'm just not hearing a blower at this time.

shaffe · 05-19-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

A really good question.

It seems that the issue with emissions stems from startup emissions. The bigger displacement of an engine, the more torque it makes...the harder it is to meet those emissions standards.

GM has already said this was a problem and chose to do a supercharged 8 for the Z06, which would have made the most sense to push for a N/A engine...

So...I am imagining not a big-displacement "LT7"...but rather a high-revving, hot-cam LT1. 7000+ rpm, 550+ peak hp.

I have also said that as well. ala LS1 to LS6.

newb · 05-19-2016, 01:03 PM

I laugh that people are convinced it must be an off the shelf available today engine for a car that is at the very least 1 year out from production. GM has plenty of time to decide where else to use said engine. A hp bump for C7 in 2018 is not impossible. Let the Camaro do the hard R&D work. Wait until it is closer to production ready. Put it in a C7 test mule that requires no outward appearance changes that identify a different drivetrain. Make the C7 appropriate tweaks. And viola! An update for 2018 that no one saw coming.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-19-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

A really good question.

It seems that the issue with emissions stems from startup emissions. The bigger displacement of an engine, the more torque it makes...the harder it is to meet those emissions standards.

GM has already said this was a problem and chose to do a supercharged 8 for the Z06, which would have made the most sense to push for a N/A engine...

So...I am imagining not a big-displacement "LT7"...but rather a high-revving, hot-cam LT1. 7000+ rpm, 550+ peak hp.

You may have a point, if that's all it is why not put it in the 1LE?, does not fit the Z/28 it does fit the Z28 model, time will tell.

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Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	If it's blown, it's the LT4. They won't put more power in the Camaro and there's no point in putting an engine with less power if you have to deal with the weight and heat of a supercharged engine. __________________

05-19-2016, 01:03 PM	#41
newb Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DMV Posts: 1,548	I laugh that people are convinced it must be an off the shelf available today engine for a car that is at the very least 1 year out from production. GM has plenty of time to decide where else to use said engine. A hp bump for C7 in 2018 is not impossible. Let the Camaro do the hard R&D work. Wait until it is closer to production ready. Put it in a C7 test mule that requires no outward appearance changes that identify a different drivetrain. Make the C7 appropriate tweaks. And viola! An update for 2018 that no one saw coming. __________________ It's a Dingledarm. It's there to dampen side fumbling. If your marzelvanes fumble too much they can cause total protonic reversal. It gets ugly from there. This is really the biggest problem with the new Camaro. That and the tri-pronged blivot. Delivered 21 Jan 2013

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