1st oil change v-6 install w/ stahlbus valve - Page 3

Glen e · 04-12-2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustya

Glen I got 6 free oil changes with the dealer about to hit 1500 miles and go get my first done. Now they are not going to use full synthetic do you think there is an issue with getting the oil changed at the dealer then switching over to full after I have used up all 6 ? I was told they use synthetic blend not full.

Would like your advice on this as you seem to be quite knowledgeable on the V6

No problem at all....The great debate between semi synthetic, ( which is what they're going to use) and synthetic, is vastly overrated for a daily driver. Choose a good oil that meets the dexos standard, and change it per the oil minder in the car, or every 5000 miles or so.

Dustya · 04-12-2016, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

No problem at all....The great debate between semi synthetic, ( which is what they're going to use) and synthetic, is vastly overrated for a daily driver. Choose a good oil that meets the dexos standard, and change it per the oil minder in the car, or every 5000 miles or so.

Perfect thanks

PolynesianPowerhouse · 05-16-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkReaper

Are you saying the factory oil drain plug is 19m? Because the SS is for sure 15mm

Was about to ask the same thing... just used a 15mm

Vectors2Final · 09-19-2016, 01:23 PM

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Lurhq343 · 09-20-2016, 10:06 AM

Great Read!

I have not yet changed my oil, but plan to this weekend. Current milage is about 1050 or so. I want to get these shavings out ASAP.

Here are the items I bought:

Oil: Walmart, Mobil 1 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil. +an Extra Quart, just in case.

Oil Filter: Amazon, Mobil 1 M1-212 Extended Performance Oil Filter

Oil Plug: eBay, Magnetic Oil Pan Drain Plug LS1 LQ9 LQ4 LS2 ls3 corvette Camaro

I already have those ramps. They are the best!!

Looking forward to changing this weekend. Will keep everyone posted.

Vectors2Final · 09-20-2016, 10:28 AM

I really don't feel like running a blended oil, so I'll be changing my own oil as well.

I'm not a big fan of Mobile 1, though.

I'm probably going to run T6.

Glen e · 09-20-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vectors2Final

I really don't feel like running a blended oil, so I'll be changing my own oil as well.

I'm not a big fan of Mobile 1, though.

I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference with a daily driver ,but I've moved to Pennzoil platinum syn since this original post

MovieGuy · 09-20-2016, 10:46 AM

I think where full synthetic oil shines is when your car sits for weeks on end between starts. That was why I kept synthetic in my Firebird. Synthetic tends to stay on the parts in your engine much longer so cold starts do less damage. Now that I am retired, and not reserving a car for emergency 400 mile trips to see my mother since she passed, I think the only time my Camaro will be sitting is when there is snow on the streets. Or when it is raining. I think if you drive your car regularly a synthetic blend is fine.

Vectors2Final · 09-20-2016, 10:50 AM

I have a truck as a daily driver. I've been driving the Camaro lately, but I'll be driving it a lot less here soon. Maybe once a week, or so is about how often I will drive it.

central limit · 09-21-2016, 08:27 AM

Glen e, thanks for the excellent post. I went with this drain valve and it is definitely a great alternative to the Fumoto. High quality construction, very positive shut-off, and of course that great low profile.

Regarding interference between the ramps and the black trim pieces, I actually place the ramps behind the front tires and reverse onto them. In my case, I still had to remove a "stopper" wedge on the top of my DIY ramps though--this car is so low. As an aside, reversing on to ramps for the first time really showcased how refined the clutch actuation is, though I can only speak for the V6/M6.

And to add to the mix, I believe my OEM drain bolt was 14mm. I suppose the wisest thing would be to have a bunch of sizes handy for that first oil change.

Also, in my case, my drain and refill was about 5.5 quarts or so. In addition to the dip stick, I also base this on the graduations on my used oil container.

In case anyone plans to use a cap-style filter wrench, the best fit I found for the PF63e was 74/76 mm. The one I got from Advance Auto seats well on the filter, but when seated the 3/8" drive tip can only go in partially. Plenty of leverage for the job though.

Cheers all,
CL

dw22racer · 09-21-2016, 08:46 AM

Thanks for posting this! Isn't the oil filter up top beside the engine? Was very easy to change on my C5 Camaro. I'm waiting for a post on how to remove engine cover on LGX without hurting it.

central limit · 09-21-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dw22racer

Thanks for posting this! Isn't the oil filter up top beside the engine? Was very easy to change on my C5 Camaro. I'm waiting for a post on how to remove engine cover on LGX without hurting it.

The oil filter is bottom-mounted next to the drain plug. Both are accessible without removing any panels. The filter is not particularly difficult to change, but is is recessed, so one should take care to inspect and clean the seating surface before spinning a new one on. Also see Glen's tip in the original post regarding using a freezer bag to catch the filter and the oil that leaks out when removing it.

I haven't tried removing the engine cover, but I can tell you it's not necessary for an oil change.

Glen e · 09-30-2016, 10:52 AM

Update: BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS, SEE IF THE ORIGNAL POST ANSWERS YOU.

so after 9 months I changed the oil to penzoil ultra platinum It could not have been easier and not a drop on my gloves or the ground. Drain took about 10 min. Filter fell into the bag and I was down the road in 25 min. I love this valve. A nice little added advantage is the tubing is surgical so it goes exactly where you want doesn't crimp up etc.

central limit · 10-29-2016, 09:28 PM

Glen,

Thanks again for the recommendation on the Stahlbus. After installing the valve on my first oil change 1,500 miles ago, I decided to do my first post-break in change.

All went well and clean, as you described... except there was a few drops of oil inside the secondary cap when I removed it to attach the hose and coupling. It wasn't enough to overflow the cap, but then again it was only 1,500 miles worth of driving. The outside of the cap was dry, as was the mating surface around the body of the plug and the crush washer.

Did you find any oil in the secondary cap when you removed it to drain?

Thanks again, still a great product.

09-20-2016, 10:06 AM	#33
Lurhq343 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro 3.6L V6 RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 11	Great Read! I have not yet changed my oil, but plan to this weekend. Current milage is about 1050 or so. I want to get these shavings out ASAP. Here are the items I bought: Oil: Walmart, Mobil 1 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil. +an Extra Quart, just in case. Oil Filter: Amazon, Mobil 1 M1-212 Extended Performance Oil Filter Oil Plug: eBay, Magnetic Oil Pan Drain Plug LS1 LQ9 LQ4 LS2 ls3 corvette Camaro I already have those ramps. They are the best!! Looking forward to changing this weekend. Will keep everyone posted. __________________ 2016 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT 3.6L V6 - Summit White

09-20-2016, 10:46 AM	#36
MovieGuy Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Topeka KS Posts: 892	I think where full synthetic oil shines is when your car sits for weeks on end between starts. That was why I kept synthetic in my Firebird. Synthetic tends to stay on the parts in your engine much longer so cold starts do less damage. Now that I am retired, and not reserving a car for emergency 400 mile trips to see my mother since she passed, I think the only time my Camaro will be sitting is when there is snow on the streets. Or when it is raining. I think if you drive your car regularly a synthetic blend is fine. __________________ Life after retirement

09-21-2016, 08:46 AM	#39
dw22racer Drives: Black 1LT V-6 A8 2016 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Orlando Posts: 19 View My Garage	Thanks for posting this! Isn't the oil filter up top beside the engine? Was very easy to change on my C5 Camaro. I'm waiting for a post on how to remove engine cover on LGX without hurting it. __________________ 2016 CAMARO 1LT A8 BLACK 2001 Z06 CORVETTE BLACKER 2002 HARLEY FATBOY BLACK + FLAMES DROOLING OVER 2017 ZL1 (BLACK, OF COURSE)

09-30-2016, 10:52 AM	#41
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	Update: BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS, SEE IF THE ORIGNAL POST ANSWERS YOU. so after 9 months I changed the oil to penzoil ultra platinum It could not have been easier and not a drop on my gloves or the ground. Drain took about 10 min. Filter fell into the bag and I was down the road in 25 min. I love this valve. A nice little added advantage is the tubing is surgical so it goes exactly where you want doesn't crimp up etc. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant Last edited by Glen e; 09-30-2016 at 05:29 PM.

09-19-2016, 01:23 PM	#32
Vectors2Final Drives: 17' Camaro 2SS 16' Jeep GC SRT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Austin Posts: 198	Sub'd

09-20-2016, 10:28 AM	#34
Vectors2Final Drives: 17' Camaro 2SS 16' Jeep GC SRT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Austin Posts: 198	I really don't feel like running a blended oil, so I'll be changing my own oil as well. I'm not a big fan of Mobile 1, though. I'm probably going to run T6.

09-20-2016, 10:50 AM	#37
Vectors2Final Drives: 17' Camaro 2SS 16' Jeep GC SRT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Austin Posts: 198	I have a truck as a daily driver. I've been driving the Camaro lately, but I'll be driving it a lot less here soon. Maybe once a week, or so is about how often I will drive it.

09-21-2016, 08:27 AM	#38
central limit Drives: 2016 1LT M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: South Florida Posts: 93	Glen e, thanks for the excellent post. I went with this drain valve and it is definitely a great alternative to the Fumoto. High quality construction, very positive shut-off, and of course that great low profile. Regarding interference between the ramps and the black trim pieces, I actually place the ramps behind the front tires and reverse onto them. In my case, I still had to remove a "stopper" wedge on the top of my DIY ramps though--this car is so low. As an aside, reversing on to ramps for the first time really showcased how refined the clutch actuation is, though I can only speak for the V6/M6. And to add to the mix, I believe my OEM drain bolt was 14mm. I suppose the wisest thing would be to have a bunch of sizes handy for that first oil change. Also, in my case, my drain and refill was about 5.5 quarts or so. In addition to the dip stick, I also base this on the graduations on my used oil container. In case anyone plans to use a cap-style filter wrench, the best fit I found for the PF63e was 74/76 mm. The one I got from Advance Auto seats well on the filter, but when seated the 3/8" drive tip can only go in partially. Plenty of leverage for the job though. Cheers all, CL

10-29-2016, 09:28 PM	#42
central limit Drives: 2016 1LT M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: South Florida Posts: 93	Glen, Thanks again for the recommendation on the Stahlbus. After installing the valve on my first oil change 1,500 miles ago, I decided to do my first post-break in change. All went well and clean, as you described... except there was a few drops of oil inside the secondary cap when I removed it to attach the hose and coupling. It wasn't enough to overflow the cap, but then again it was only 1,500 miles worth of driving. The outside of the cap was dry, as was the mating surface around the body of the plug and the crush washer. Did you find any oil in the secondary cap when you removed it to drain? Thanks again, still a great product.

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