RESULTS AT ECR WITH TRACKWING

sr71bb · 11-14-2021, 07:10 PM

Eagles Canyon Results with TRACKWING

Tried out a great new product today called TRACKWING www.trackwing.com. Basically it is a REMOVABLE big assed wing that is 71 inches wide and is TALLER than the roof of our cars. Look below for some pics I took of it yesterday PRIOR to me going to Eagles Canyon.

Anyway, I ran a 2.04.56 with the wing at Eagles Canyon today. Look below also for some pics of the Harry's LapTimer info on that run.

As near as I can calculate, the wing accounted for about a second reduction in lap time. The next time we go to ECR 2.02-2.03 range will be in the cards because by THAT time AMP will have the car modded have another 120 RWHP (heads and cam). It has 480 RWHP now with mods that have been done to the LT1 currently.

Dabjbr · 11-14-2021, 07:26 PM

Thanks for sharing! So being removal, is it something you bought or rented?

No detectable challenges with imbalance in downforce front to rear?

sr71bb · 11-14-2021, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabjbr

Thanks for sharing! So being removal, is it something you bought or rented?

No detectable challenges with imbalance in downforce front to rear?

The balance remained the same fortunately and I was still hitting 127 MPH on the back straight so I saw very little effect on the straightaway speed. I asked to rent the wing first just so I could see for myself that it was worthwhile.

What I DONT know about is whether Zl1 cannards and the larger chin spolier would be beneficial or not vs my smaller chin spoiler. I have been hesitant about that because I personally dont like the way they look.

On a side note, I am running E85 and in four 30 minute track sessions, I burned up 33 gallons of fuel so a little less than a half of tank of E85 per each 30 minute session. Burn rate of E85 is roughly 30 per cent faster than regular gasoline. I brought 3 5 gallon jugs with me and the car was full when I started. So I sort of made a rule for myself NOT to start a session with LESS than half a tank. I will say also that the gas tank baffles with the 6th GEN set up are MUCH better than they were with my 5th GEN. With my 5th GEN you could get fuel starvation due to fuel slosh if you had less than a 1/4 tank and a hard corner.

khcoaching · 11-15-2021, 02:17 AM

It would have been interesting to have you do a session without it, then with it, back to back.

olblue75 · 11-15-2021, 08:26 AM

No signs of slippage or movement?

sr71bb · 11-15-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

No signs of slippage or movement?

No it actually has a manual pump up mechanism on each suction cup that helps it to maintain suction and a tethering system that if the wing SHOULD come off it would stay on top of the trunk and NOT hit the ground or the car behind you.

kropscamaro16 · 11-15-2021, 11:29 AM

just talking to my buddy about aero on 6th gens yesterday told him ive seen 3 places that make wings but no front splitters so hard pass on aero for me for now...

Ummpwr · 11-15-2021, 12:37 PM

I am very interested in this trackwing. Although I would want some front splitter or aero to compliment it. Anyone know if any front splitter or lip for a 18 SS1LE?

kropscamaro16 · 11-15-2021, 12:47 PM

apr makes one and aerosport concepts makes one but not a chassis mounted splitter

That1guy_tim · 11-16-2021, 07:59 AM

Front splitters are available at your local hardware store for about 40$. just need a marker, a saw and some mounting hardware.

kropscamaro16 · 11-16-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by That1guy_tim

Front splitters are available at your local hardware store for about 40$. just need a marker, a saw and some mounting hardware.

haha this is true the only hard part is the mounting setup

Ummpwr · 11-19-2021, 08:01 PM

When you did the track day with the wing you said you were about 1sec faster. Did you remove the wing and re install it the same day to determine the difference that the wing accounted for?

Also did you see any dents in the rear trunk lid from the downforce?

RUQWIKR · 11-20-2021, 06:37 PM

How did you run today and with the wing again?

N Camarolina · 11-20-2021, 06:51 PM

Everything I've ever heard about aero says that increased downforce from a wing (if effective) causes a wind resistance penalty, which decreases top speed on long straights. That's why underbody trays and diffusers became such a great solution (increased suction force - effectively downforce without a drag penalty).

If you aren't having your top speed affected (127 MPH is probably a high enough speed to see a significant drag effect from an effective wing, right?), I'd be doubtful that the wing is providing worthwhile downforce.

11-14-2021, 07:10 PM	#1
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,484	RESULTS AT ECR WITH TRACKWING Eagles Canyon Results with TRACKWING Tried out a great new product today called TRACKWING www.trackwing.com. Basically it is a REMOVABLE big assed wing that is 71 inches wide and is TALLER than the roof of our cars. Look below for some pics I took of it yesterday PRIOR to me going to Eagles Canyon. Anyway, I ran a 2.04.56 with the wing at Eagles Canyon today. Look below also for some pics of the Harry's LapTimer info on that run. As near as I can calculate, the wing accounted for about a second reduction in lap time. The next time we go to ECR 2.02-2.03 range will be in the cards because by THAT time AMP will have the car modded have another 120 RWHP (heads and cam). It has 480 RWHP now with mods that have been done to the LT1 currently. Attached Images __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Last edited by sr71bb; 11-14-2021 at 10:15 PM.

11-15-2021, 08:26 AM	#5
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	No signs of slippage or movement? __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

11-15-2021, 11:29 AM	#7
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	just talking to my buddy about aero on 6th gens yesterday told him ive seen 3 places that make wings but no front splitters so hard pass on aero for me for now... __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

11-15-2021, 12:47 PM	#9
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	apr makes one and aerosport concepts makes one but not a chassis mounted splitter __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

11-16-2021, 07:59 AM	#10
That1guy_tim Drives: Camaro 1ss Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 495	Front splitters are available at your local hardware store for about 40$. just need a marker, a saw and some mounting hardware. __________________ Follow me on IG for build thread! https://www.instagram.com/tracked_1ss/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Tracked_1ss FortuneAuto Coilovers! https://shop-fortune-auto.com/produc...ries-coilovers

11-14-2021, 07:26 PM	#2
Dabjbr Drives: 2020 SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: NorCal Posts: 658	Thanks for sharing! So being removal, is it something you bought or rented? No detectable challenges with imbalance in downforce front to rear?

11-15-2021, 02:17 AM	#4
khcoaching Drives: 2021 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: 98548 Posts: 612	It would have been interesting to have you do a session without it, then with it, back to back.

11-15-2021, 12:37 PM	#8
Ummpwr Drives: Honda S2000 Join Date: May 2019 Location: SC Posts: 133	I am very interested in this trackwing. Although I would want some front splitter or aero to compliment it. Anyone know if any front splitter or lip for a 18 SS1LE?

11-19-2021, 08:01 PM	#12
Ummpwr Drives: Honda S2000 Join Date: May 2019 Location: SC Posts: 133	When you did the track day with the wing you said you were about 1sec faster. Did you remove the wing and re install it the same day to determine the difference that the wing accounted for? Also did you see any dents in the rear trunk lid from the downforce?

11-20-2021, 06:37 PM	#13
RUQWIKR Drives: 1LEs Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW - Texas Posts: 1,319	How did you run today and with the wing again?

11-20-2021, 06:51 PM	#14
N Camarolina Drives: 2021 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 804	Everything I've ever heard about aero says that increased downforce from a wing (if effective) causes a wind resistance penalty, which decreases top speed on long straights. That's why underbody trays and diffusers became such a great solution (increased suction force - effectively downforce without a drag penalty). If you aren't having your top speed affected (127 MPH is probably a high enough speed to see a significant drag effect from an effective wing, right?), I'd be doubtful that the wing is providing worthwhile downforce.

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