JANNETTY RACING HEADER TEST 1 3/4 VS 1 7/8 - Page 3

JANNETTYRACING · 11-26-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nataphen

Woohoo! Can't wait to see your results. Thanks for comparing all these.

Here you go. http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472259

EDFHOBBIES · 11-26-2016, 03:01 PM

1 3/4 Borla's headers over stock tri's manifolds with an eforce.

These headers and Borla's ATAK = Loudest camaro ever lol!

Atomic Ed · 11-26-2016, 05:16 PM

Ted, were these runs done with the cat or catless ARH system?

Also, would you please put up the peak/max numbers for each system? Trying to interpolate numbers on a computer screen doesn't work well for me.

Third idea; could you overlay the stock run on the graph?

Thank you.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-27-2016, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic Ed

Ted, were these runs done with the cat or catless ARH system?

Also, would you please put up the peak/max numbers for each system? Trying to interpolate numbers on a computer screen doesn't work well for me.

Third idea; could you overlay the stock run on the graph?

Thank you.

With cats.

All of the info can be found here http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436608

The Red lines are torque, and the blue lines are HP.

Feel free to call me with any questions.

Ted.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-27-2016, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

1 3/4 Borla's headers over stock tri's manifolds with an eforce.

These headers and Borla's ATAK = Loudest camaro ever lol!

Curious why you would choose a 1 3/4 header for a supercharged application?

EDFHOBBIES · 11-27-2016, 11:11 AM

They were free given to us by Borla. It was there R&D car for the Atak and headers. 1200 dollars for 12 to 15 hp more maybe over 17/8 or 2" wasn't worth it to me. Not when the car needs more octane at 11.5:1 compression the money is going to be spent for e85 setup

JANNETTYRACING · 11-28-2016, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

They were free given to us by Borla. It was there R&D car for the Atak and headers. 1200 dollars for 12 to 15 hp more maybe over 17/8 or 2" wasn't worth it to me. Not when the car needs more octane at 11.5:1 compression the money is going to be spent for e85 setup

Free is always a nice option

let me know if you need help with the E-85 parts and tuning.

Ted.

EDFHOBBIES · 11-28-2016, 10:47 AM

Ted what will our cars do? Will we need the LT4 pump and cam?

JANNETTYRACING · 11-28-2016, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Ted what will our cars do? Will we need the LT4 pump and cam?

Not sure I understand the question?

EDFHOBBIES · 11-28-2016, 12:04 PM

How much power usually on FI can the SS handle on e85 before you need to buy the cam and fuel pump from the lt4? I guess I should say before it gets expensive lol

Also I have not seen a good topic on this..

Some shops,swear that the pick up or low side only needs changed or iI good to 650 rhp other shops,say you need the LT4 pump and cam with a different lobe.

And I guess the pain in th ass part now is that silicon is used to assemble the motor now and pulling the motor or at least getting the oil pan off to clean and reseal is most of the labor or pain unlike my LS3 camaro..

JANNETTYRACING · 11-28-2016, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

How much power usually on FI can the SS handle on e85 before you need to buy the cam and fuel pump from the lt4? I guess I should say before it gets expensive lol

Also I have not seen a good topic on this..

Some shops,swear that the pick up or low side only needs changed or iI good to 650 rhp other shops,say you need the LT4 pump and cam with a different lobe.

And I guess the pain in th ass part now is that silicon is used to assemble the motor now and pulling the motor or at least getting the oil pan off to clean and reseal is most of the labor or pain unlike my LS3 camaro..

Lets just say you need the fuel system upgrades before you switch to flex fuel.

The LT4 pump and injectors are all that is needed.

Ted.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-11-2017, 11:33 AM

Bump for the new guys.

JANNETTYRACING · 03-02-2022, 11:30 AM

Been a few years but still a good read.

SOCAL.M6.ZLE · 03-02-2022, 06:02 PM

Any similar tests on an LT4?
Great work BTW...

11-26-2016, 03:01 PM	#30
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	1 3/4 Borla's headers over stock tri's manifolds with an eforce. These headers and Borla's ATAK = Loudest camaro ever lol! Attached Images __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

11-27-2016, 11:11 AM	#34
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	They were free given to us by Borla. It was there R&D car for the Atak and headers. 1200 dollars for 12 to 15 hp more maybe over 17/8 or 2" wasn't worth it to me. Not when the car needs more octane at 11.5:1 compression the money is going to be spent for e85 setup __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

11-28-2016, 10:47 AM	#36
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	Ted what will our cars do? Will we need the LT4 pump and cam? __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

11-28-2016, 12:04 PM	#38
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	How much power usually on FI can the SS handle on e85 before you need to buy the cam and fuel pump from the lt4? I guess I should say before it gets expensive lol Also I have not seen a good topic on this.. Some shops,swear that the pick up or low side only needs changed or iI good to 650 rhp other shops,say you need the LT4 pump and cam with a different lobe. And I guess the pain in th ass part now is that silicon is used to assemble the motor now and pulling the motor or at least getting the oil pan off to clean and reseal is most of the labor or pain unlike my LS3 camaro.. __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

10-11-2017, 11:33 AM	#40
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,230	Bump for the new guys. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

11-26-2016, 05:16 PM	#31
Atomic Ed Drives: 2001 Audi TT, 2016 Camaro Join Date: May 2016 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 833	Ted, were these runs done with the cat or catless ARH system? Also, would you please put up the peak/max numbers for each system? Trying to interpolate numbers on a computer screen doesn't work well for me. Third idea; could you overlay the stock run on the graph? Thank you.

03-02-2022, 11:30 AM	#41
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,230	Been a few years but still a good read. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

03-02-2022, 06:02 PM	#42
SOCAL.M6.ZLE Having FUN in the SUN... Drives: 2022 M6 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,105	Any similar tests on an LT4? Great work BTW... __________________ 2022 M6 ZLE: Katech Standard Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation Kit TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild Catch Can Coated AR Headers + GESI UHO Cats + V Bands + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster ALL the BMR Read End Goodies + BMR Motor Mounts + JRE Terminator Cam Package + Big Gulp + GMS High Flow Crash Bar DMS Front HX + Fender Tank + FIC 30's + APEX SM.10's + TOYO 305/345 R888R's = 775rwhp 815rwtq @E55 13.5psi

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