[newmoon]

Originally Posted by shaffe

What he said ^ for a car off the lot, from the factory mid to low 12s is fast.

12:20s is a very good pass but slow in comparison of other 2018s there same day same time. Maybe the other two he mentioned running 12:00s and 11:80s had hidden mods, tunes, or race fuel, you never know. But if the other two were in fact stock he was 3-5 mph slower an indication of a problem. Manual I could see driver error but auto the cars should be very close atleast in mph. It would have been nice to see one of the other car's timeslip.

[FastCarFanBoy]

3 out of 4 of his passes the car only picked up 22mph on the back half which is weak. The pass it picked up 24 mph it was weak in the 1/8. He needs to log the car.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

12:20s is a very good pass but slow in comparison of other 2018s there same day same time. Maybe the other two he mentioned running 12:00s and 11:80s had hidden mods, tunes, or race fuel, you never know. But if the other two were in fact stock he was 3-5 mph slower an indication of a problem. Manual I could see driver error but auto the cars should be very close atleast in mph. It would have been nice to see one of the other car's timeslip.

I agree

But 11.8@120 in 1500 and 25 headwind sounds very exceptional. DA not so much but if it really was 25 headwind that will hurt. The 11.8 car might have had a tune who knows

[BlaqWhole]

Back from vacation guys!!

I will say that low 12s to high 11s does not automatically make a car "fast". For example, which car is faster, one that does 11.9 at 119 MPH or one that does 12.4 at 130 MPH? If you were in both cars and punched it, which one would snap your neck? Quarter mile time by itself doesn't mean much. Because you guys talk about how stock comparisons don't matter in the real world...but in the real world when you're at a meet and your 11.9/119 MPH car is getting called out by the 12.4/130 MPH car for a roll on race, then that 11.9 don't mean squat because your lunch will get taken. Is the new GT "fast"? Well if I get out of my Hellcat or ZL1 and hopped into the 18 GT then I highly doubt it would feel "fast". Which is why I didn't get the 6th Gen SS. Because despite the quarter mile times it did, after driving one on the highway and comparing it to my FBO 5th Gen SS, it just didn't give me any thrills at all.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Back from vacation guys!!

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Back from vacation guys!!

I will say that low 12s to high 11s does not automatically make a car "fast". For example, which car is faster, one that does 11.9 at 119 MPH or one that does 12.4 at 130 MPH? If you were in both cars and punched it, which one would snap your neck? Quarter mile time by itself doesn't mean much. Because you guys talk about how stock comparisons don't matter in the real world...but in the real world when you're at a meet and your 11.9/119 MPH car is getting called out by the 12.4/130 MPH car for a roll on race, then that 11.9 don't mean squat because your lunch will get taken. Is the new GT "fast"? Well if I get out of my Hellcat or ZL1 and hopped into the 18 GT then I highly doubt it would feel "fast". Which is why I didn't get the 6th Gen SS. Because despite the quarter mile times it did, after driving one on the highway and comparing it to my FBO 5th Gen SS, it just didn't give me any thrills at all.

Well to be exact..

11.9-12.4 is absolutely considered a "quick" car. Back in 2009 it was a big deal when a bone stock 5th Gen cracked the 12 second mark stock.

ET: How Quick, dictated by traction
MPH: How fast..dictated by power AND traction.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Back from vacation guys!!

I will say that low 12s to high 11s does not automatically make a car "fast". For example, which car is faster, one that does 11.9 at 119 MPH or one that does 12.4 at 130 MPH? If you were in both cars and punched it, which one would snap your neck? Quarter mile time by itself doesn't mean much. Because you guys talk about how stock comparisons don't matter in the real world...but in the real world when you're at a meet and your 11.9/119 MPH car is getting called out by the 12.4/130 MPH car for a roll on race, then that 11.9 don't mean squat because your lunch will get taken. Is the new GT "fast"? Well if I get out of my Hellcat or ZL1 and hopped into the 18 GT then I highly doubt it would feel "fast". Which is why I didn't get the 6th Gen SS. Because despite the quarter mile times it did, after driving one on the highway and comparing it to my FBO 5th Gen SS, it just didn't give me any thrills at all.

The simple answer to that is that roll racing is dumb lol

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Don't worry. I'm a changed man.

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Well to be exact..

11.9-12.4 is absolutely considered a "quick" car. Back in 2009 it was a big deal when a bone stock 5th Gen cracked the 12 second mark stock.

ET: How Quick, dictated by traction
MPH: How fast..dictated by power AND traction.

I remember when a mid 13 was fast...and when the Viper first came out doing a 13 flat and everyone couldn't believe how fast it was. But the point is that the quarter mile time isn't the only factor in what makes a faster car. So 2 cars could do identical times but one could be much much faster than the other.

Originally Posted by shaffe

The simple answer to that is that roll racing is dumb lol

We all have our things. I think burnouts are dumb but that's just me.

But I don't quite see the point of going from 0-110/120/130+ and then stopping when you could start at 40 and see just how fast you can really go and who can or cant keep up.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by shaffe

The simple answer to that is that roll racing is dumb lol

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

We all have our things. I think burnouts are dumb but that's just me.
But I don't quite see the point of going from 0-110/120/130+ and then stopping when you could start at 40 and see just how fast you can really go and who can or cant keep up.

Roll racing is dumb because it is so dangerous on the street. But that is not a big deal for the racers, science calls that natural selection. Just like riding a bike without a helmet.

But it gets beyond dumb to tragic when you take out innocent people.

[FastCarFanBoy]

I’m a dig racer born and raised but after about 450whp it becomes futile to try dig racing on the street with anything less than DR’s and some prep. Your forced to roll race for safety sake... empty stretches of road of course. Roll racing videos through traffic makes me want to punch people through the screen.

Hell I had to put my DR’s on just to do 3rd gear pulls when tuning for E85... and that was while doing the base line pulls on 93... just wasn’t safe.

[ST1LE]

Don't kid yourself boys, no street racing is safe for anyone! smh

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Don't worry. I'm a changed man.



I remember when a mid 13 was fast...and when the Viper first came out doing a 13 flat and everyone couldn't believe how fast it was. But the point is that the quarter mile time isn't the only factor in what makes a faster car. So 2 cars could do identical times but one could be much much faster than the other.


We all have our things. I think burnouts are dumb but that's just me.

But I don't quite see the point of going from 0-110/120/130+ and then stopping when you could start at 40 and see just how fast you can really go and who can or cant keep up.

Yeah we all have our own things. Almost got busted for street racing once when I was 18. Since then have always kept it on the track so really that is why I prefer from a dig.

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

I’m a dig racer born and raised but after about 450whp it becomes futile to try dig racing on the street with anything less than DR’s and some prep. Your forced to roll race for safety sake... empty stretches of road of course. Roll racing videos through traffic makes me want to punch people through the screen.

Hell I had to put my DR’s on just to do 3rd gear pulls when tuning for E85... and that was while doing the base line pulls on 93... just wasn’t safe.

that is true, I just prefer to keep it on the track.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Roll racing is dumb because it is so dangerous on the street. But that is not a big deal for the racers, science calls that natural selection. Just like riding a bike without a helmet.

But it gets beyond dumb to tragic when you take out innocent people.

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Don't kid yourself boys, no street racing is safe for anyone! smh

Originally Posted by shaffe

Yeah we all have our own things. Almost got busted for street racing once when I was 18. Since then have always kept it on the track so really that is why I prefer from a dig.



that is true, I just prefer to keep it on the track.

I wasn't talking about street racing tho. You can roll race on private roads. You can rent small airport roads...a group I used to ride motorcycles with used to do that years ago to hang out, practice stunting, and for racing. Etc. There are plenty of ways to roll race legally and safely. Again, I'm talking about roll racing...not street racing.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I wasn't talking about street racing tho. You can roll race on private roads. You can rent small airport roads...a group I used to ride motorcycles with used to do that years ago to hang out, practice stunting, and for racing. Etc. There are plenty of ways to roll race legally and safely. Again, I'm talking about roll racing...not street racing.

Most of the time roll racing is done on the street. II have never heard of anyone renting roads so they could roll race but good for you that you found safe way way to do it.

doesn't change my opinion that it's dumb lol. No timers, no regulations, still way to many variables that could effect the outcome vs a controlled track like the dragstrip IMHO. Just not my thing, if that's what you like doing more power to you just not for me.