11-28-2022, 07:29 PM | #1 |
Drives: 2018 1SS Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: MA
Posts: 300
|
Track Set Up suggestions
Hi All,
Background: Been a while since I posted. I took your advice and worked on the driver mod - been spending more time driving the car than browsing the forum. I am now running in the advanced run groups for my track days HPDE and been dabbling in instructing this past season. That said, it is time to replace my current MMR 20" track tire & rim set up. I am worried they're not going to stand up to the abuse I put on them, plus they have a lot of track miles already - ready to retire them before a catastrophic failure. I am running a 2018 SS with the GM lowering kit and sway bar kit along with some other non-important to list mods for this topic. My Ask of You: Rims: I now know the folly of my ways - I plan to go with 18 or 19" rims and wanted some suggestions. I want to stay around $4K for the rims, but can flex if needed. Can you offer some suggestions for advanced driver, track-worthy rims. I'm more worried about durability than either looks or weight. Weight is important, but not primary. I do also want some suggestions on the biggest size I can fit. I am running the SS 1LE big brakes up front (not the ZL1), so I am a little concerned with the 18" - does that work? Either way, what is the widest I can fit, front and rear for either 18" or 19"? Tires: I've been running Toyo RRs and they've treated me well. I am not competing, so I don't plan on jumping to Hoosiers R7 or A7, but I am open to other options now that other options will be open to me (not many choices in the 20" tire market). Based on the fitment above, please give some good track suggestions (not really interested in streetable options - I am already running PS4S on my street rims). Thanks in advance crew!
__________________
2018 Red Hot 1SS, GM lowering kit & 1LE Sway bar kit, ZL1 1LE solid rear cradle bushings, BMR sway bar end links, GM CAI w/tune, Pray ported IM, Mamo ported TB, VS Forged VS07 rims 20x11 & 20x10 w/ Michelin PS4S
|
11-28-2022, 09:08 PM | #2 |
Drives: '86 IROC-Z '18 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Arizona
Posts: 734
|
Track alignment makes a noticeable difference.
|
11-28-2022, 10:34 PM | #3 |
Drives: 2021 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: 98548
Posts: 611
|
I have a write up with data on the comparison in my journal about wheels/square setup.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...=594295&page=3 Alignment also makes a huge difference. Ken
__________________
Follow my build - https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594295
|
11-29-2022, 10:10 AM | #4 |
Drives: Chevy Camaro 2021 ,rs, v6, manual Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Georgia
Posts: 868
|
Yes , adding more negative camber makes the most improvement and is cheapest.
|
12-04-2022, 10:32 PM | #5 |
RedLine
|
I have a square set up for sale... https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611834
__________________
2018 GMC 2500 "Blue" (Sold)
2018 ZL1 1LE Hyper Blue" (Sold) 2018 CTS-V "Black" (Sold) 2022 GMC 2500 "Blue" 2022 ZL1 1LE 6spd "Rapid Blue" 2023 ZL1 1LE Auto Rapid Blue (ordered) |
01-25-2023, 04:25 PM | #6 |
Shifts under load
Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Posts: 1,295
|
Check with Apex Racing wheels. I personally think the OEM Goodyears on the 1LE's are fantastic all around on track and street. They only last about 10-12k miles with a few weekend trackdays and daily driving though.
https://www.apexraceparts.com/shop-b...meter=%2C5%2C6
__________________
24 Audi S3 prem plus, sport package
HPDE - southeast - JTI- solo, PCA- blue. 22 Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT blue |
01-25-2023, 09:36 PM | #7 |
Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,335
|
No substitute for forged wheels. OEM are high quality (1LE or ZL1 1LE) and have the right offsets although not square. I have bent the webbing in aftermarket "flow formed" just with track use.
__________________
2020 ZL1 1LE [Moroso SC Expansion Tank, otherwise stock]
|
03-15-2023, 10:45 AM | #8 | |
Drives: 2018 1SS Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: MA
Posts: 300
|
Quote:
This is exactly the type of issue I am trying to better understand - spoke stability for track car driven close to limit. I know Apex has a decent reputation on this forum, but they are a pretty low load rating for a forged wheel at 1600lbs. I am concerned with that because I am running semi slick (Toyo Proxes RR) and regularly get into the 1.1-1.2g in turns. This is a significant load transfer on a heavy car. I am trying not to spend nearly 10K on wheels and tires, which is where most of the other forged wheels will land at (~$1700/wheel x4 and ~$400/tire x4 = ~$9,200 for a full set). 1st world problems I know, but if I can be safe with the Apex forged, then I am closer to $5k and that is more palatable. So that is a core question for the track people here - can I safely run Apex forged rims (1600lb load capacity per wheel) if I am pulling 1.1-1.2g If the answer is no, what would be the minimum load rating I need for my track rims? -
__________________
2018 Red Hot 1SS, GM lowering kit & 1LE Sway bar kit, ZL1 1LE solid rear cradle bushings, BMR sway bar end links, GM CAI w/tune, Pray ported IM, Mamo ported TB, VS Forged VS07 rims 20x11 & 20x10 w/ Michelin PS4S
|
|
03-15-2023, 11:26 AM | #9 |
Drives: 2021 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: 98548
Posts: 611
|
Zero factor. I routinely see way more than that on my forged and non forged Apex wheels.
Ken
__________________
Follow my build - https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594295
|
03-15-2023, 03:49 PM | #10 |
Drives: 2020 SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: NorCal
Posts: 656
|
Doubt you'll have any problems with Apex. If you do, they have a half-off warranty. Legit company that primarily serves the track community.
|
03-15-2023, 04:23 PM | #11 |
Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: 909
Posts: 9,813
|
i have a set of 20"s hre flowform wheels and apex 19"s and i bent one hre flowform but never broken any and no issues with my apex either i track around 6-7 times a year and i attack the curbs and berms pretty hard lol youll be fine
__________________
16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
|
|