Borla Long Tube Headers?

kykid · 08-11-2018, 07:10 PM

Anyone here running the Borla headers? I'm thinking of running them with their S type exhaust on my '18SS. Any issues? Performance figures vs other headers? I don't plan on going forced induction, just some basic bolt on mods. Intake, headers, exhaust and a tune is my immediate plan. Open to suggestions on combos. I don't want anything as aggressive as the atak though.

ULTRAZLS1 · 08-11-2018, 07:14 PM

I’m sure the quality is ok but they are only 1 3/4 last I checked. They will be down on power. I wouldn’t go with Borla for that reason

glenB · 08-11-2018, 08:58 PM

https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__17293.html

"Sorry this product is no longer available and has been discontinued."

kykid · 08-12-2018, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenB

https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__17293.html

"Sorry this product is no longer available and has been discontinued."

They're still in stock at several places and I've always had great luck with Borla products. Seems like a decent price too.

kykid · 08-12-2018, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I’m sure the quality is ok but they are only 1 3/4 last I checked. They will be down on power. I wouldn’t go with Borla for that reason

Seems like anything bigger than 1 3/4 primaries would be overkill on an N/A setup? I may be wrong about that though.

I don't plan on going supercharged or anything like that. You guys might laugh at me for this but it seems like with an intake, headers, exhaust and a tune this car would be PLENTY fast enough for a daily driven street car.

oldman · 08-12-2018, 10:19 AM

I thought like you too, but this engine puts our 530 BHP which is roughly where the 426 hemi, the 427 L88 were, both these engines liked a minimum of 2" primaries (actually 2 and 1/8 was minimum if you could fit it in the car... just saying). So even my conservative choice of a 1 and 7/8 bone stock long block was just that a conservative choice. The only good thing about the 1 and 7/8 header is there is more room less steering shaft / burned wire issues. I still have my stock wires correctly and carefully routed. That said the 2" would seem not to have any power loss and produce a tad more top end power even with just a bolt on engine. I don't regret my 1 and 7/8 would do it again, even though my current build would luv 2"

ULTRAZLS1 · 08-12-2018, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kykid

Seems like anything bigger than 1 3/4 primaries would be overkill on an N/A setup? I may be wrong about that though.

I don't plan on going supercharged or anything like that. You guys might laugh at me for this but it seems like with an intake, headers, exhaust and a tune this car would be PLENTY fast enough for a daily driven street car.

Comprehensive dyno tests have been done on the ls3 and lt1. 1 7/8 Beats 1 3/4 from bottom to top

FrostySS · 08-12-2018, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kykid

Seems like anything bigger than 1 3/4 primaries would be overkill on an N/A setup? I may be wrong about that though.

You are, 1 7/8 make more power than the 3/4, I wouldn't even go through the trouble and expense for 3/4

enzia35 · 08-12-2018, 04:29 PM

I think PRAY has even said 2” all the things!

ZNix · 08-12-2018, 04:53 PM

2" for all the LTs!

kykid · 08-13-2018, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Comprehensive dyno tests have been done on the ls3 and lt1. 1 7/8 Beats 1 3/4 from bottom to top

By a significant margin?

KingLT1 · 08-13-2018, 08:47 AM

1 7/8 are what you want for a bolt-on level car. 2" wont add anything until Forced Induction or a aggressive heads/cam setup. Also some brands 2" have clearance issues. Depending on your plans for the car, I wouldn't even do headers...just get CA cat deletes and tune the NPP valves. 80% of the gains are deleting the primary cats, and adjusting how the NPP valves open and close cleans up the sound.

08-11-2018, 07:10 PM	#1
kykid Drives: 2018 Camaro SS Coupe 6M Hyper Blue Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: In the 502 Posts: 45 View My Garage	Borla Long Tube Headers? Anyone here running the Borla headers? I'm thinking of running them with their S type exhaust on my '18SS. Any issues? Performance figures vs other headers? I don't plan on going forced induction, just some basic bolt on mods. Intake, headers, exhaust and a tune is my immediate plan. Open to suggestions on combos. I don't want anything as aggressive as the atak though.

08-12-2018, 10:19 AM	#6
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	I thought like you too, but this engine puts our 530 BHP which is roughly where the 426 hemi, the 427 L88 were, both these engines liked a minimum of 2" primaries (actually 2 and 1/8 was minimum if you could fit it in the car... just saying). So even my conservative choice of a 1 and 7/8 bone stock long block was just that a conservative choice. The only good thing about the 1 and 7/8 header is there is more room less steering shaft / burned wire issues. I still have my stock wires correctly and carefully routed. That said the 2" would seem not to have any power loss and produce a tad more top end power even with just a bolt on engine. I don't regret my 1 and 7/8 would do it again, even though my current build would luv 2" __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires. Last edited by oldman; 08-12-2018 at 10:32 AM.

08-12-2018, 04:29 PM	#9
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,450	I think PRAY has even said 2” all the things! __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

08-13-2018, 08:47 AM	#12
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	1 7/8 are what you want for a bolt-on level car. 2" wont add anything until Forced Induction or a aggressive heads/cam setup. Also some brands 2" have clearance issues. Depending on your plans for the car, I wouldn't even do headers...just get CA cat deletes and tune the NPP valves. 80% of the gains are deleting the primary cats, and adjusting how the NPP valves open and close cleans up the sound. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

08-11-2018, 07:14 PM	#2
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,407	I’m sure the quality is ok but they are only 1 3/4 last I checked. They will be down on power. I wouldn’t go with Borla for that reason

08-11-2018, 08:58 PM	#3
glenB Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 721	https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__17293.html "Sorry this product is no longer available and has been discontinued."

08-12-2018, 04:53 PM	#10
ZNix Drives: 1987 Buick Grand National Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mass Posts: 149	2" for all the LTs!

User Name		Remember Me?
Password