[JSH]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

rear wing... (which slows you down in roll-ons and the stiff suspension reduces traction off the line)

I think both of these are mostly wives' tales. Most digs are 60-130 where rear wing downforce is a nonfactor, and my car totally hooks with nannies on and off at the strip. The 1LE makes an excellent drag strip car. They are well represented on the fast lists.

Speaking of wives' tales, I believe the car is probably quicker with nannies on.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

I think both of these are mostly wives' tales. Most digs are 60-130 where rear wing downforce is a nonfactor, and my car totally hooks with nannies on and off at the strip. The 1LE makes an excellent drag strip car. They are well represented on the fast lists.

There's nothing about the 1LE that makes it a good drag car. Sure you can overcome the super stiff suspension and aero to some degree but you won't find anyone with a fast drag car with super stiff suspension, it is not productive to weight transfer when launching. Its just physics. Show me a 1LE at the top of the quickest 6th Gen ZL1 drag times. Have you seen a Dodge Demon? They didn't get the world's quickest 0-60 record from making the suspension stiffer than a standard Hellcat, nope, they made it softer. Its fine if you like the 1LE for aesthetic reasons, but just don't make up a narrative that the 1LE is just as good as the standard ZL1 for drag racing, because its not.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

The ZL1 is the Jack of all Trades and the Master of None.

The ZL1/1LE is the Master of One. Honest, no slop in suspension - it 'transmits' instead of gliding over pavement. It's sole mission is to give the driver every piece of information possible through the suspension to ensure confidence.

Pick your car based on your use case and pain tolerance.

And that's the perfection of the standard ZL1, it can DO IT ALL, it's not a one trick pony. If you're a SERIOUS track rat, by all means get the 1LE package, that's what its made for.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

There's nothing about the 1LE that makes it a good drag car. Sure you can overcome the super stiff suspension and aero to some degree but you won't find anyone with a fast drag car with super stiff suspension, it is not productive to weight transfer when launching. Its just physics. Show me a 1LE at the top of the quickest 6th Gen ZL1 drag times. Have you seen a Dodge Demon? They didn't get the world's quickest 0-60 record from making the suspension stiffer than a standard Hellcat, nope, they made it softer. Its fine if you like the 1LE for aesthetic reasons, but just don't make up a narrative that the 1LE is just as good as the standard ZL1 for drag racing, because its not.

Look at the lists, they're there. You clearly don't know 1LEs or Et series drag racing. The 1LE has better braking and better control at the finish line, which are critical factors for ET racers, who race more at the end of the track.

How is the ZL1 better for ET racing?

[minn19]

Why do we constantly go round and round with this?

I had a 19 ZLE when I tracked my cars. I now have a regular 22 ZL1 because I don’t track anymore and absolutely love it for the street and long weekend cruises. It’s an awesome GT car.

Get a ZLE if you track, like the look or think it is the “top dog” Camaro. But I completely disagree with the ones that say they ride even remotely similarly on the street. Because they don’t, especially if you live in area like I do with shitty roads broken up from harsh winters and hot summers.

Tires don’t mean shit for the ride either. I had a set of PSSs for my ZLE and it still road horribly on broken pavement.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

Look at the lists, they're there. You clearly don't know 1LEs or Et series drag racing. The 1LE has better braking and better control at the finish line, which are critical factors for ET racers, who race more at the end of the track.

How is the ZL1 better for ET racing?

Still waiting for you to provide those 1LEs at the top of the 6th Gen quickest list. Post up the times and videos.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by minn19

Why do we constantly go round and round with this?

I had a 19 ZLE when I tracked my cars. I now have a regular 22 ZL1 because I don’t track anymore and absolutely love it for the street and long weekend cruises. It’s an awesome GT car.

Get a ZLE if you track, like the look or think it is the “top dog” Camaro. But I completely disagree with the ones that say they ride even remotely similarly on the street. Because they don’t, especially if you live in area like I do with shitty roads broken up from harsh winters and hot summers.

Tires don’t mean shit for the ride either. I had a set of PSSs for my ZLE and it still road horribly on broken pavement.

Its refreshing to hear honest opinions.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by KSZLE

Hey buddy, its lumbar spondylosis to you! LOL. I'm getting the ZLE anyway. If the trouble it takes to get one of these things is any indication of value, mine will be worth a million dollars a year from now.

Get it dude! As someone else said, its a street legal race car. Living in Houston I couldn't do it, the roads are incredibly bad here. If I could swing it, I would, especially if I could get a good deal. The ZL1 is still so much car, the compromise makes more sense for me.

Originally Posted by Stroker548

What do you doubt? Rough is a relative term. What’s rough to you mite not be rough for a man that knows he is in a factory hot rod.

It's all that and more brother!

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by JSH

Look at the lists, they're there. You clearly don't know 1LEs or Et series drag racing. The 1LE has better braking and better control at the finish line, which are critical factors for ET racers, who race more at the end of the track.

How is the ZL1 better for ET racing?

A ZL1 1LE optioned car has the same brake setup as a ZL1 without the 1LE option.....1LE option gives bigger tires so that does help with stopping but still more rotational mass the slow down.

What does braking and ET drag racing have in common? Nothing. I don't see top fuel dragsters or pro stock cats braking hard at the line.

ET racers don't race at the end. ET racers race at what they are existed to do. ET racing helps a STi race a ZL1 and cross the line roughly at the same time. Right?

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by JSH

I think both of these are mostly wives' tales. Most digs are 60-130 where rear wing downforce is a nonfactor, and my car totally hooks with nannies on and off at the strip. The 1LE makes an excellent drag strip car. They are well represented on the fast lists.

Speaking of wives' tales, I believe the car is probably quicker with nannies on.

Correct. This IS a total wives tale. I've went 11.2@124 and my best 60' is 1.69. Car is totally stock other than Toyo R888R's.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

There's nothing about the 1LE that makes it a good drag car. Sure you can overcome the super stiff suspension and aero to some degree but you won't find anyone with a fast drag car with super stiff suspension, it is not productive to weight transfer when launching. Its just physics. Show me a 1LE at the top of the quickest 6th Gen ZL1 drag times. Have you seen a Dodge Demon? They didn't get the world's quickest 0-60 record from making the suspension stiffer than a standard Hellcat, nope, they made it softer. Its fine if you like the 1LE for aesthetic reasons, but just don't make up a narrative that the 1LE is just as good as the standard ZL1 for drag racing, because its not.

Sorry, but thats just plain out not true. I run with and beat stock non 1LE ZL1's at gateway on the regular. Any effect the 1LE suspension has on 1/4 mile times, IF ANY, is very negligible.

[LeonardS]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Sorry, but thats just plain out not true. I run with and beat stock non 1LE ZL1's at gateway on the regular. Any effect the 1LE suspension has on 1/4 mile times, IF ANY, is very negligible.

Uh, oh…….now the ZL1 defenders will be back!

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by LeonardS

Uh, oh…….now the ZL1 defenders will be back!

LOL! Oh, I'm sure. Fact is, take a ZLE, a ZL1, and a Z06 and any 1/4 mile race between them is won at the tree.....even though the Z06 is clearly faster.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

LOL! Oh, I'm sure. Fact is, take a ZLE, a ZL1, and a Z06 and any 1/4 mile race between them is won at the tree.....even though the Z06 is clearly faster.

The 1LE will be much worse with even more power from a dig. The suspension doesn't allow the car to shift weight and sag to hook. Z06 is right its physics.


Your not going to find a 1LE with the same power beating a normal ZL1, and if you do its because the driver sucks