[LSA556]

'24 Coyote Mustangs just got hit with a gas guzzler's tax- $1000 for the GT and $1300 for the Dark Horse. People may hate the Camaro's AFM on the automatic or skip shift on the manual but at least both saved you from paying that tax!

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

Because the flimsy S550 chassis can't handle the torque. I'm not making this up. Throttle House drag raced a supercharged convertible (I think it was a Shelby American model) and twisted the chassis and broke a trim piece during the racing.

#facts

https://youtu.be/J_J0LvvqW5A?t=635

[crysalis_01]

2024 Mustang MPG (as per National Resources Canada) released, showing why the 5.0 equipped models will be receiving a "Gas Guzzler Tax":

• 2.3 EB – City 22 / Highway 33 / Combined 26
• 2.3 EB PP – City 21 / Highway 29 / Combined 24
• 5.0 GT A10 – City 15 / Highway 24 / Combined 18
• 5.0 DH M6 – City 14 / Highway 22 / Combined 17


They did not have numbers posted for the GT with the M6 or the DH with the A10 listed. But I imagine they're similar to the other V8 equipped models.



Compared to the current Camaro lineup:
• 2.0T A8 22/30/25
• 2.0T M6 19/29/22
• 3.6L A10 18/29/22
• 3.6L M6 16/26/20
• 6.2L A10 16/26/20
• 6.2L M6 16/24/19
• 6.2SC A10 13/21/16
• 6.2SC M6 14/20/16

[302crossram]

Originally Posted by LSA556

'24 Coyote Mustangs just got hit with a gas guzzler's tax- $1000 for the GT and $1300 for the Dark Horse. People may hate the Camaro's AFM on the automatic or skip shift on the manual but at least both saved you from paying that tax!

tax is cheaper than a long block out of warranty

I'd gladly pay it instead of cags/afm

[FarmerFran]

Ok, the dealer came in over 71K for the Dark Horse I wanted. They are on Crack.

Premium
Recaro
Manual
Handling Package


absolutely nuts N U T Z!!!

[FarmerFran]

A well optioned GT/5.0 is now north of 60K

[crysalis_01]

The whole car pricing industry, and not even just new, used as well, has been "out of hand" for a while now. I'm sure FoMoCo's marketing team was looking at the available cross shoppable completion and figured these prices were at least competitive.


All below are "well optioned" in my mind:
2023 Z Performance - $53,649
2023 GR Supra 3.0 Premium - $59,965
M240i Coupe - $54,975
M2 Coupe - $63,450
M440i Coupe - $64,600



With Challenger gone and Camaro in an abbreviated year, they're likely weren't even brought up.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by 302crossram

tax is cheaper than a long block out of warranty

I'd gladly pay it instead of cags/afm

Exactly. Drop an AFM lifter and let me know how far $1300.00 goes at the dealer lol.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

The whole car pricing industry, and not even just new, used as well, has been "out of hand" for a while now. I'm sure FoMoCo's marketing team was looking at the available cross shoppable completion and figured these prices were at least competitive.


All below are "well optioned" in my mind:
2023 Z Performance - $53,649
2023 GR Supra 3.0 Premium - $59,965
M240i Coupe - $54,975
M2 Coupe - $63,450
M440i Coupe - $64,600



With Challenger gone and Camaro in an abbreviated year, they're likely weren't even brought up.

$70K for a Dark Horse is just, well ****ING stupid.

[flobb]

pfft, I guess if you can't afford a $100k F-150 you settle for a $70k Mustang.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

$70K for a Dark Horse is just, well ****ING stupid.

I agree. But at the same time, as a business, they know they'll sell every one of them they build, regardless. And I suppose they're also counting on the idea of "Well... what else are they going to buy?" Whether or not the buying public sees it for what it is or not, remains to be seen.

It does make one wonder exactly how insane the MSRP will be for the eventual GT500 successor.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

I agree. But at the same time, as a business, they know they'll sell every one of them they build, regardless. And I suppose they're also counting on the idea of "Well... what else are they going to buy?" Whether or not the buying public sees it for what it is or not, remains to be seen.

It does make one wonder exactly how insane the MSRP will be for the eventual GT500 successor.

Bingo. An “overpriced” option is superior to NO option…!

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Bingo. An “overpriced” option is superior to NO option…!

At the point I spend 70K on a car that's performance is 10 years old, I will switch, and maybe that is their angle. But I have my gas burner for now and for less, so sure.