Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-09-2018, 08:23 AM   #29
hntrgthrs
 
hntrgthrs's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 ZL1
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: NJ
Posts: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenging Orange View Post
I've ask before and I will again......why are you stuck on a specific number? HP numbers do not make the car. I can find 400hp cars blasting 500hp cars all day long. It's the right combination of hp, tq, drivtrain, suspension, etc. all working in harmony.
Well said. Back when I was having my old GTO and G8 worked on, I really couldn't have cared less about the actual dyno numbers. To the point where I even forgot to ask at times. Unless you are bench racing or trying to put something in your car forum signature, no one should really give a shit.
__________________
2015 ZL1 Coupe - Summit White | Stock (for now)
hntrgthrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2018, 09:14 AM   #30
lazerlemonta

 
lazerlemonta's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 C6 1LT
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 879
Quote:
Originally Posted by hntrgthrs View Post
Which is why dyno numbers are a pretty meaningless tool.

Useful in bench racing, though.
SAE says I make 450 on a dyno jet and STD is 470 lol Dyno numbers are just that...... numbers. I use the dyno to tune and smooth out the curve and the send it at the track where real results are.
__________________
2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE
BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85

Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE
10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake
Best 1/8 6.80@105.75
Best MPH 134.82
lazerlemonta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2018, 08:00 AM   #31
Dylan1214
 
Dylan1214's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Camaro SS L99
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GrandRapids,Michigan
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL View Post
Even with our drivetrain loss?
According to GPI yes, This is the email I sent and response I got from them,

( What do you think i'd be pushing with this setup on 93octane? Max Package (62CC,a 232/254 cam on a 106 IC VVT) Plus the atomic manifold,Long tubes, 25%udp, and intake/exhaust?

We made 520 wheel on a manual trans on 93 with this exact set up. It made 542 on E-85. Yours should be with in 2 or 3 % of that with an auto.)



Honestly i'm just happy hitting 500, anything more is just a huge bonus lol
__________________
MODS: GPI MAX Package ported and milled heads+(229/250,111 LSA),Johnson 2110 Lifters,BTR .660 Springs,CHE Trunnions,C5R chain,DSX Flex Fuel kit,LSA Injectors,ZL1 Fuel Pump,MAMO Ported MSD Intake manifold,BOWhite ported Throttle body,25% UDP,CAI Intake,Intake Scoop,Kooks 1 7/8 headers,Borla attak catback,Elite catch can,BMR Motor mounts,CircleD 5C 4000-4200 Torque converter,ADM trans cooler,Jannetty Trans dipstick,DSS Aluminum Driveshaft,3.91 Gears,Eaton TrueTrac,JRE Billet caps,BMR Trailing arms,BMR Toe rods,BMR rear sway bar,Pegasus Solid sub frame bushings,DSS 1,000HP Axles

Last edited by Dylan1214; 05-10-2018 at 08:16 AM.
Dylan1214 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2018, 12:00 PM   #32
Taylortoons
 
Taylortoons's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Dallas
Posts: 482
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1214 View Post
Honestly i'm just happy hitting 500, anything more is just a huge bonus lol
Yep, I said the same thing...for about 6 months. Really, 550 isn't a lot more than 425 in terms of seat of the pants. Jump that number up to more than 750 and it's a whole new experience...
__________________
GPI Built Procharger D-1/13 PSI/Race Intercooler/SS3 Cam Kit/Kooks LTH/X- pipe/FIC 1050/E85/3.91 gears/Centerforce Dual Disc clutch/Flowmaster Outlaw/775whp/680tqSOLD
Taylortoons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2018, 12:40 PM   #33
1911 1LE
 
Drives: 2015 SW 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: 78155
Posts: 308
You're going to have to be a strong S.O.B to stay happy @ 500hp. I thought I would be @ 485, 605, 640 and now 760. Wrong!!!
__________________
Maggie 2650 @ 18psi/ 75mm 10 rib/ Dual alky nozzles/ Roto-fab/ ARH 2" Lt's/ GT-12 cam/ ZL1 3.23 Conv./MGW/RPS triple carbon clutch/RSG tranny upgrage/Pedders Ex. XA w/ remote cans and a lot of other crap 897/8??@tires
1911 1LE is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2018, 01:21 PM   #34
Rhino79


 
Rhino79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cabot, AR
Posts: 2,827
Yes, We have done it with a few setups on SBE LS3/L99 stuff. My current setup is over 560 rwhp with out ported LS3 heads, and doing it through a TH400.
Rhino79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2018, 03:13 PM   #35
Powered1le
 
Powered1le's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2ss 1le
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Va
Posts: 131
No you will need a blower turbo or spray
__________________
2014 camaro 2ss/rs 1le [muffler & resonator delete, x-pipe , roto fab cai, 305 35 r20 rear tire 285 35 r20 front goodyear f1 supercar,1 7/8" tsp long tube headers with high flow cats, tsp Prc heads, K1 rods, Wisco pistons, 522whp 495tq dynojet.dyno btr stage3 cam, brain tooley racing dual springs kit, arp head studs and arp bolts,
Powered1le is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2018, 04:07 PM   #36
Dylan1214
 
Dylan1214's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Camaro SS L99
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GrandRapids,Michigan
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powered1le View Post
No you will need a blower turbo or spray



Did you not read any posts? It's very possible
__________________
MODS: GPI MAX Package ported and milled heads+(229/250,111 LSA),Johnson 2110 Lifters,BTR .660 Springs,CHE Trunnions,C5R chain,DSX Flex Fuel kit,LSA Injectors,ZL1 Fuel Pump,MAMO Ported MSD Intake manifold,BOWhite ported Throttle body,25% UDP,CAI Intake,Intake Scoop,Kooks 1 7/8 headers,Borla attak catback,Elite catch can,BMR Motor mounts,CircleD 5C 4000-4200 Torque converter,ADM trans cooler,Jannetty Trans dipstick,DSS Aluminum Driveshaft,3.91 Gears,Eaton TrueTrac,JRE Billet caps,BMR Trailing arms,BMR Toe rods,BMR rear sway bar,Pegasus Solid sub frame bushings,DSS 1,000HP Axles
Dylan1214 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2018, 06:27 PM   #37
Powered1le
 
Powered1le's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2ss 1le
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Va
Posts: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1214 View Post


Did you not read any posts? It's very possible
At what expense are you willing to take to get 500wrhp. Other than spraying it is a very good way to get 500wrhp without major problems.
__________________
2014 camaro 2ss/rs 1le [muffler & resonator delete, x-pipe , roto fab cai, 305 35 r20 rear tire 285 35 r20 front goodyear f1 supercar,1 7/8" tsp long tube headers with high flow cats, tsp Prc heads, K1 rods, Wisco pistons, 522whp 495tq dynojet.dyno btr stage3 cam, brain tooley racing dual springs kit, arp head studs and arp bolts,
Powered1le is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2018, 06:55 PM   #38
xc_SS/RS


 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: somewhere in MD
Posts: 4,884
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powered1le View Post
At what expense are you willing to take to get 500wrhp. Other than spraying it is a very good way to get 500wrhp without major problems.
Yes, a turbo, two turbos, supercharger, or NOS are good ways to get to 550whp. The only issues with that answer is the OP wanted to know if 550 whp is possible staying N/A, or all motor

Not many risks being taken to reach 550 whp all motor. It is very possible
__________________
2010 2SS/RS
Z/28 intake, NW, FAST 102, speed engineering LT's, some exhaust, ATI -10% pulley, GM flex fuel injectors, DSX flex fuel sensor, MGW shifter, HP Tuners, some suspension work, stickers and a little weight loss. 12.63 @113.53
xc_SS/RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2018, 04:04 PM   #39
Baddbird
 
Baddbird's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mo
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1214 View Post
According to GPI yes, This is the email I sent and response I got from them,

( What do you think i'd be pushing with this setup on 93octane? Max Package (62CC,a 232/254 cam on a 106 IC VVT) Plus the atomic manifold,Long tubes, 25%udp, and intake/exhaust?

We made 520 wheel on a manual trans on 93 with this exact set up. It made 542 on E-85. Yours should be with in 2 or 3 % of that with an auto.)



Honestly i'm just happy hitting 500, anything more is just a huge bonus lol
If that's the cam you plan on running I think your
gonna need to flycut the pistons.
Baddbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2018, 04:11 PM   #40
Bo White


 
Bo White's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 8,018
Lots of cam
Lots of cylinder head
Lots of compression
__________________
Retired wanna be cylinder head porter
2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter
Totalled:
2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X
Bo White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2018, 04:31 PM   #41
Dylan1214
 
Dylan1214's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Camaro SS L99
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GrandRapids,Michigan
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baddbird View Post
If that's the cam you plan on running I think your
gonna need to flycut the pistons.
Normally yes, But the Max package comes with modified LS7 heads for more PTV clearance/Cam

https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...d-cam-package/
__________________
MODS: GPI MAX Package ported and milled heads+(229/250,111 LSA),Johnson 2110 Lifters,BTR .660 Springs,CHE Trunnions,C5R chain,DSX Flex Fuel kit,LSA Injectors,ZL1 Fuel Pump,MAMO Ported MSD Intake manifold,BOWhite ported Throttle body,25% UDP,CAI Intake,Intake Scoop,Kooks 1 7/8 headers,Borla attak catback,Elite catch can,BMR Motor mounts,CircleD 5C 4000-4200 Torque converter,ADM trans cooler,Jannetty Trans dipstick,DSS Aluminum Driveshaft,3.91 Gears,Eaton TrueTrac,JRE Billet caps,BMR Trailing arms,BMR Toe rods,BMR rear sway bar,Pegasus Solid sub frame bushings,DSS 1,000HP Axles
Dylan1214 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2018, 04:44 PM   #42
Baddbird
 
Baddbird's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mo
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1214 View Post
Normally yes, But the Max package comes with modified LS7 heads for more PTV clearance/Cam

https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...d-cam-package/
Yeah I know. I built my car with the L99 Max Package. I own the "previously bone stock 339hp" car that Ryan spoke of in the GPI max thread.
Baddbird is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
500, all motor, ls3


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.