[b4z]

I don't like spoilers on stanchions so the 1LE spoiler appeals to me more. But why did they design the back of the spoiler to follow the vertical plane of the deck lid?. It should've come out past the deck lid. Its too much verticalness at the rear. The mustang's rear fascia and taillights kills the camaro's. .

[OminouSS]

Originally Posted by b4z

I don't like spoilers on stanchions so the 1LE spoiler appeals to me more. But why did they design the back of the spoiler to follow the vertical plane of the deck lid?. It should've come out past the deck lid. Its too much verticalness at the rear. The mustang's rear fascia and taillights kills the camaro's. .

To each their own. and they did it because it works. OOOOOOOHHH burn.

[JulesWinnfield]

I'd take that fugly spoiler off and put smth that makes less downforce. z06, now the zl1...
Too bad that Chevy thinks that the parachute in a sportscar is a good idea. If ure not a professional track racer then u dont need that bs. Even the base z06 is slow as uck after the 140 mph... Same will be with the zl1.
Straight line races thats what matters in daily driving. U need a track car? But the z28.
Because of that stupid downforce the zl1 will be much slower than the gt500.
It is even slower that the cat which has the aero of the brick

[Michigan1LTRS]

Um, I would try some fiber.

[17CamaroZL1]

Curves are more fun! With all the twisty roads around here, give me the downforce, and stick me to the road! That's what I want for daily driving. Drag racing is an occasional weekend gig and the downforce generated from the Z is not going to slow it down enough to make a difference worth worrying about IMO.

[OminouSS]

Originally Posted by JulesWinnfield

I'd take that fugly spoiler off and put smth that makes less downforce. z06, now the zl1...
Too bad that Chevy thinks that the parachute in a sportscar is a good idea. If ure not a professional track racer then u dont need that bs. Even the base z06 is slow as uck after the 140 mph... Same will be with the zl1.
Straight line races thats what matters in daily driving. U need a track car? But the z28.
Because of that stupid downforce the zl1 will be much slower than the gt500.
It is even slower that the cat which has the aero of the brick

Wait. Who the hell races in a straight line 'daily'? I can just picture some tool going from light to light, revving the crap out of his engine and laying down a burny patch 40 feet long, against a Honda civic who had the misfortune of ending up at the intersection first.

[17CamaroZL1]

The Mustangs and Hellcats have shown us how attempting to daily drive them with little downforce turns out. Save a tree, a curb, and a few bystanders please.

[TJay74]

Ok, who in here even remotely thinks the stock ZL1 or even the 1LE spoiler is going to work at the normal road speeds and even the occasional sprint past the normal legal speeds?

Sorry, but the difference in the ZL1 and 1LE spoilers are not going to affect anyone wanting to change them out. I am like some of the others, the winged spoiler on the ZL1 is not as attractive as the 1LE spoiler.

For the few true enthusiasts who will track the 1LE just as the Z06 owners can opt for the duck bill spoiler add on, the same thing the Z06 owners get when they opt for the Z07 track package.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by JulesWinnfield

I'd take that fugly spoiler off and put smth that makes less downforce. z06, now the zl1...
Too bad that Chevy thinks that the parachute in a sportscar is a good idea. If ure not a professional track racer then u dont need that bs. Even the base z06 is slow as uck after the 140 mph... Same will be with the zl1.
Straight line races thats what matters in daily driving. U need a track car? But the z28.
Because of that stupid downforce the zl1 will be much slower than the gt500.
It is even slower that the cat which has the aero of the brick

WOW...so much fail!

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by TJay74

Ok, who in here even remotely thinks the stock ZL1 or even the 1LE spoiler is going to work at the normal road speeds and even the occasional sprint past the normal legal speeds?

Sorry, but the difference in the ZL1 and 1LE spoilers are not going to affect anyone wanting to change them out. I am like some of the others, the winged spoiler on the ZL1 is not as attractive as the 1LE spoiler.

For the few true enthusiasts who will track the 1LE just as the Z06 owners can opt for the duck bill spoiler add on, the same thing the Z06 owners get when they opt for the Z07 track package.

You're right, for street driving it will have no effect at all. That said, you have to understand why GM sold the car this way. You also have to accept that we don't know what offering the spoiler option would mean logistically for GM and for the cost of the car overall as costs are spread to every car. I hear people say all the time 'it should be an option from the factory', but its always outsiders that have no clue what the process entails. Unless you want a $90K ZL1 a la Z07 option etc.

I agree, the ZL1 Spoiler is ugly AF. I also believe that if it was just as easy as 'offer a factory option', then GM would offer every option possible to increase sales.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by TJay74

Ok, who in here even remotely thinks the stock ZL1 or even the 1LE spoiler is going to work at the normal road speeds and even the occasional sprint past the normal legal speeds?

Sorry, but the difference in the ZL1 and 1LE spoilers are not going to affect anyone wanting to change them out. I am like some of the others, the winged spoiler on the ZL1 is not as attractive as the 1LE spoiler.

For the few true enthusiasts who will track the 1LE just as the Z06 owners can opt for the duck bill spoiler add on, the same thing the Z06 owners get when they opt for the Z07 track package.

I installed the Z/28 aero kit on my '14 SS two years ago.

After that, my average fuel economy has been 1.5-2mpg less than it usually was, highway driving...I also notice a difference in stability at speed. Since then, I have been convinced that changing intentionally-designed aero on a car WILL affect the cars performance in some way. Further research and conversations with designers and engineers has supported my theory.

To think that changing the aero package will NOT affect the car in some way...imo (and I apologize for being blunt) is naive. Cars aren't designed just for looks anymore. Thanks to fuel economy standards (and now, performance), extensive aerodynamic design is engineered in.

I completely support a person's decision to change the look of their car...but don't fool yourself into thinking there will be no effect on aero/stability/etc. It may be minimal under certain circumstances, of course...but there will be an effect.

[GoneBoy]

And if it's any consolation to those considering the swap who haven't yet taken delivery of their beast, it doesn't look as abhorrent in person as it does in photos, which is the same belief i have of the gen6 in general. I know that's just a personal opinion. But I was thinking of doing the same until I saw mine up close. Is it pretty? Probably not. But overall not that bad.

[b4z]

We don't really need the downforce 99.8% of the time. It does have a bad effect on hwy mileage, and you can see at the 130-140 mark with the z06 hits a brick wall unlike the last gen zr1.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by b4z

We don't really need the downforce 99.8% of the time. It does have a bad effect on hwy mileage, and you can see at the 130-140 mark with the z06 hits a brick wall unlike the last gen zr1.

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