P3 Gauge worth the money for flex mix

WiggyB · 01-28-2023, 05:25 PM

I know there are apps out there that you can use to get your fuel mixture right but there is nothing like real time reading of your fuel ratio. Today was my second time filling up on the e50 run and last time I did the 1/2 mix and it was close but I ended up with a 44 mix and that was after adding the rest of the c85 my tuner gave me. So I purchased the P3 gauge and today was the next fill up. Once the light came on I stopped and put in 5 gallons of 93 and the rest another 12 gallons of e85. First go around ended up with a 53 mix. Ran the gas down a little stopped and put in another 2 gallons of 93. Now I'm at a solid 48 so I know what to do next fill up. I'll do 6 1/2 gallons of 93 and the rest with 85 so that should get me where I need to be give or take. But watching the mix adjust real time was nice so I can manage the blend without thinking too much.

Those that have questions about the mixing you can't go wrong with it.

asthmamax11 · 01-31-2023, 04:31 PM

Unless you're filling up from exactly the same level of gas everytime isn't it difficult to estimate how much E to mix in without some kind of gauge ?

WiggyB · 01-31-2023, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asthmamax11

Unless you're filling up from exactly the same level of gas everytime isn't it difficult to estimate how much E to mix in without some kind of gauge ?

You're right. I don't see how an app can exactly calculate what its going to take when you refill. I normally fill up when the fuel light comes on so I try to get it at the same amount but how do you know how much is left in the tank at that time.

Kerry · 01-31-2023, 06:12 PM

well you can guessamate about 5 gallons per quarter as it holds 19 total. logger can tell u how many gallons are in the tank. I use the n gauge but not many around any more but their are others out there. pull up wait a min or 2 get the reading use the app and then u can nail it........ IF ha u know what e value is coming out the pump

and varies due to time of the year. Around here I use speedway and its 85 all summer. Throntons a couple days ago was 60 being January. Like King says u can guestamate drive around a little then adjust accordingly.

Kerry · 01-31-2023, 06:14 PM

https://www.amazon.com/REV-X-Super-T...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Whats coming out the pump

WiggyB · 01-31-2023, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry

https://www.amazon.com/REV-X-Super-T...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Whats coming out the pump

Awe man that's even extra work....

I'll take the gauge and keep it simple........ I use my brain enough during the day at work (IT).

adamjwilson · 02-01-2023, 06:44 AM

So where did you get the E-gauge? Hard to install?

asthmamax11 · 02-01-2023, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry

https://www.amazon.com/REV-X-Super-T...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Whats coming out the pump

Instructions say wait 5 min after filling to fill line
Wtf
I just want to pump gas

Kerry · 02-01-2023, 11:07 AM

30 seconds will tell about where its at close enough

Kerry · 02-01-2023, 11:08 AM

Around here the same stations tend to be the same in summer months. Speedway is always 85 Thornton's used to be but last time I went their it was 75.

asthmamax11 · 02-01-2023, 12:41 PM

Ok this is reassuring
I moved last June and FINALLY have access to E85.
I am confident an E blend would really make my car consistent and smoother

sr71bb · 02-01-2023, 06:56 PM

I use my AEROFORCE gauge and ONE of the parameters is E rating. When I go to my local KROGER store, it tells me my E85 is actually E80. If I use the MURPHY gas station down the street THEIR E85 is actually E70.

The other day I got stopped by a big power NA MOOSTANG when I was filling up at KROGER and he wanted to know what the E rating actually was so he could let his tuner know. I am not sure what good that will do him though. (LOL)

The difference in power is negligible between E70 and E80 so I would not worry too much about a 10 point difference. In SOME places though the E mix goes DOWN in the winter months significantly so you have to watch that.

Highest quality E85 is actually from VP racing or IGNITE Fuels (see below). https://vpracingfuels.com/product/c85/?c=215&
Their C85 is ALWAYS 85%. They CLAIM a 4% power increase vs. standard E85 and I will be testing that shortly. For me that would be about a 25HP improvement but I have no doubt your tuning tables would have to be adjusted upward to provide more timing to get those numbers.

Plus the damn stuff is about 17.00 a gallon compared to about 2.40 a gallon NOW for E85 at Kroger. Since I use ABOUT 30 gallons of fuel on track days, that is significant.

IGNITE Fuel Info:

Ignite RED is E90 (12.00/gal), Ignite ORANGE is E85 (11.00/gal)

https://igniteracingfuel.com/products

01-28-2023, 05:25 PM	#1
WiggyB Drives: 2022 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: NC Posts: 271	P3 Gauge worth the money for flex mix I know there are apps out there that you can use to get your fuel mixture right but there is nothing like real time reading of your fuel ratio. Today was my second time filling up on the e50 run and last time I did the 1/2 mix and it was close but I ended up with a 44 mix and that was after adding the rest of the c85 my tuner gave me. So I purchased the P3 gauge and today was the next fill up. Once the light came on I stopped and put in 5 gallons of 93 and the rest another 12 gallons of e85. First go around ended up with a 53 mix. Ran the gas down a little stopped and put in another 2 gallons of 93. Now I'm at a solid 48 so I know what to do next fill up. I'll do 6 1/2 gallons of 93 and the rest with 85 so that should get me where I need to be give or take. But watching the mix adjust real time was nice so I can manage the blend without thinking too much. Those that have questions about the mixing you can't go wrong with it. Attached Images __________________ p1sc1 factory box w/ stage 2 intercooler, Lt4 fueling, JMS BAP, lt2 intake, kooks 1/78 longtube headers w/ h/f cats, alky meth kit, thpsi port injection

01-31-2023, 04:31 PM	#2
asthmamax11 Drives: 1SS Summit White 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Gainesville GA Posts: 579	Unless you're filling up from exactly the same level of gas everytime isn't it difficult to estimate how much E to mix in without some kind of gauge ? __________________ 16 1SS M6 White Magnuson 2.3 Heartbeat Roto Fab Solo Performance Cat deletes and Axleback Hurst short shifter #'s coming soon Riaction coilovers 1LE sway bars BMR mm BMR chassis brace Flow one 19" wheels wrapped in Mickey Thompsons 02 Z28 M6 35th anniversary 80k miles T-tops Leather Bolt ons Joy to drive this classic every day! Daily Driver

02-01-2023, 06:44 AM	#7
adamjwilson Drives: 2022 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: FL Posts: 524	So where did you get the E-gauge? Hard to install? __________________ 2022 Camaro 2SS/ Whipple 3.0 / 2"Headers/ PRC LTX Heads/ Forged Internals/LT4 fueling/ DSX Aux/ DSX Flex Fuel/ Meth Injection/ Katech 112 TB/ RotoFab Big Gulp/ Corsa NPP/ Various exterior mods

02-01-2023, 12:41 PM	#11
asthmamax11 Drives: 1SS Summit White 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Gainesville GA Posts: 579	Ok this is reassuring I moved last June and FINALLY have access to E85. I am confident an E blend would really make my car consistent and smoother __________________ 16 1SS M6 White Magnuson 2.3 Heartbeat Roto Fab Solo Performance Cat deletes and Axleback Hurst short shifter #'s coming soon Riaction coilovers 1LE sway bars BMR mm BMR chassis brace Flow one 19" wheels wrapped in Mickey Thompsons 02 Z28 M6 35th anniversary 80k miles T-tops Leather Bolt ons Joy to drive this classic every day! Daily Driver

02-01-2023, 06:56 PM	#12
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,484	AEROFORCE Gauge Shows E quality I use my AEROFORCE gauge and ONE of the parameters is E rating. When I go to my local KROGER store, it tells me my E85 is actually E80. If I use the MURPHY gas station down the street THEIR E85 is actually E70. The other day I got stopped by a big power NA MOOSTANG when I was filling up at KROGER and he wanted to know what the E rating actually was so he could let his tuner know. I am not sure what good that will do him though. (LOL) The difference in power is negligible between E70 and E80 so I would not worry too much about a 10 point difference. In SOME places though the E mix goes DOWN in the winter months significantly so you have to watch that. Highest quality E85 is actually from VP racing or IGNITE Fuels (see below). https://vpracingfuels.com/product/c85/?c=215& Their C85 is ALWAYS 85%. They CLAIM a 4% power increase vs. standard E85 and I will be testing that shortly. For me that would be about a 25HP improvement but I have no doubt your tuning tables would have to be adjusted upward to provide more timing to get those numbers. Plus the damn stuff is about 17.00 a gallon compared to about 2.40 a gallon NOW for E85 at Kroger. Since I use ABOUT 30 gallons of fuel on track days, that is significant. IGNITE Fuel Info: Ignite RED is E90 (12.00/gal), Ignite ORANGE is E85 (11.00/gal) https://igniteracingfuel.com/products __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Last edited by sr71bb; 02-01-2023 at 07:39 PM.

01-31-2023, 06:12 PM	#4
Kerry Drives: 2019 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Al Posts: 828	well you can guessamate about 5 gallons per quarter as it holds 19 total. logger can tell u how many gallons are in the tank. I use the n gauge but not many around any more but their are others out there. pull up wait a min or 2 get the reading use the app and then u can nail it........ IF ha u know what e value is coming out the pump and varies due to time of the year. Around here I use speedway and its 85 all summer. Throntons a couple days ago was 60 being January. Like King says u can guestamate drive around a little then adjust accordingly.

01-31-2023, 06:14 PM	#5
Kerry Drives: 2019 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Al Posts: 828	https://www.amazon.com/REV-X-Super-T...NsaWNrPXRydWU= Whats coming out the pump

02-01-2023, 11:07 AM	#9
Kerry Drives: 2019 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Al Posts: 828	30 seconds will tell about where its at close enough

02-01-2023, 11:08 AM	#10
Kerry Drives: 2019 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Al Posts: 828	Around here the same stations tend to be the same in summer months. Speedway is always 85 Thornton's used to be but last time I went their it was 75.

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