12-03-2016, 07:06 PM | #1 |
Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,621
|
Track pads for 1LE?
Front caliper on the SS 1LE is the same as the C7 Z06 - Iron disc
OEM Ferodo Front - 25940447 Rear - 22847818 Revised Rear Part# 84732503 Raybestos ST-43 Front - RC1405 Rear - RC1718 StopTech TrackDay Front - PST1405 Rear - PST1718 Carbotech part # is CT1405 XP8/10/12/20 readily available in this pad size Hawk Part # is HB649(compound letter).605 Hawk makes practically every compound for this size Hawk Compound letter codes are: F - HPS, G - DTC-60, U - DTC-70, R - Street Race, N - HP+ (new compound) So a front DTC-60 pad set would be HB649G.605 Rear brake is the standard SS Brembo. Hawk says GM originally provided them with incorrect information about the rear pad size. The rear caliper on the SS is the rear caliper on the C7 'vette. The web site database is being updated. The correct part number is the HB727, not the HB194. Hawk part # is HB727(compound letter).592 OEM rotors (Front) MSRP for $674. Part# 23142500 (R) 23189768 (L) GMpartsdirect.com has them for $377. Link to DBA Rings that will work with our hat. http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492428 https://www.knsbrakes.com/c/car-seri...M+GM+Rotor+Hat OEM Rear Rotor 84097593 OEM Caliper Bracket Bolt (F) 11570092 (R) 11570091 Pad information for the Turbo 4Cyl 1LE J55 Brake option (Front 4-piston Brembo, floating rear) Carbotech Front: CT1001 Rear: CT1914 Happy tracking!
__________________
2017 HBM SS 1LE
Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6 Last edited by MatthewAMEL; 02-03-2024 at 10:55 PM. Reason: added part #s for OEM pads |
12-03-2016, 08:33 PM | #2 |
Drives: 2017 ATS-V, 2017 SS 1LE (Sold) Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 101
|
I ran Hawk HP+ on both my BRZ and 328i... they are fantastic. Full days at Laguna Seca were no issue.
__________________
|
12-03-2016, 08:39 PM | #3 |
Drives: Garnet Red - 20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,010
|
I believe the front Brembo 6 piston setup is shared with the C7 Z06. The rears should be a normal 2016-2017 Camaro SS rear brake pad
|
12-03-2016, 09:22 PM | #4 | |
Drives: 1LEs Join Date: May 2009
Location: DFW - Texas
Posts: 1,320
|
Quote:
Let us know what you find out... |
|
12-03-2016, 09:51 PM | #5 |
Drives: '19 RivrsdBlu 1LE ('17 1LE HB sold) Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,686
|
I vote for Raybestos pads (either ST43 or ST47front/ST45 rear) no wonder many track junkies and racers call them "magic pads" .. both my friends and I have tried many different types of pads on different cars/setups but we all came back to Raybestos pads at the end ..they're the longest lasting pads with great initial bite and very good on rotors and operating temps also make them possible to use for street driving
__________________
|
12-03-2016, 10:28 PM | #6 | |
Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,621
|
Quote:
I'll get on the phone with Hawk on Monday and let you know what I find out.
__________________
2017 HBM SS 1LE
Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6 |
|
12-03-2016, 10:34 PM | #7 | |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 116
|
Quote:
I still have some Carbotech rears with plenty of life left from my 14 1LE that would be nice to keep using if possible. Seems like swapping out the fluid for something like Motul RBF is a necessary mod for track as well. |
|
12-03-2016, 10:41 PM | #8 |
Drives: ZL1 1LE Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: California
Posts: 1,298
|
I would think you would want something a bit more robust than an HPS+, those are basically street pads. While acceptable for something light, like a BRZ, I would guess they won't handle the heat much better than stock on a car like the 1LE.
Do we know for sure the brakes will fade as is? Highly dependent on the driver as well. |
12-03-2016, 10:54 PM | #9 |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 116
|
I used Carbotech XP 10/12 on my 14 1LE and I had mixed thoughts about them. Then again, the car is so heavy that it may have been more than the pads. I am hoping the larger front calipers and the slightly lighter platform will help dramatically, because the brakes were a real weak point on the gen5 1LE.
I was happy with both Endless and Pagid pads on my M3, but boy were they pricey... around $750 for all four corners. Yikes |
12-03-2016, 11:14 PM | #10 |
Banned
Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 1,529
|
I am a big Carbotech fan.....BUT they have to be bedded properly. If your rotors are not glowing orange when you put it to bed for the night, you did not do it right.................and don't cheap out on the fluid, SRF or don't bother, ALL the others will boil eventually.
|
12-04-2016, 12:29 AM | #11 | |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 116
|
Quote:
|
|
12-04-2016, 12:37 AM | #12 |
Drives: '19 RivrsdBlu 1LE ('17 1LE HB sold) Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,686
|
problem with the Carbotech pads ,imo, is the longevity .They didn't last more than 3-4 events also the initial bite is not as good as the Raybestos . That being said, some people prefer the oem-like feel of the XP12 (or XP10s ) and claim they can better modulate the brakes because of that. In my case, I think more is always better when it comes to stopping power and brake fading never becomes an issue with more robust pads. It is really important to match the pads with the tires also, when I had my C6 GS I mismatched the pads (ST43s with the PSS tires) . Ice mode becomes an issue immediately
__________________
|
12-05-2016, 10:01 PM | #13 |
Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,621
|
Spoke with Carbotech today.
The Front pad is the same as the C7 Z06 (iron disc). That means CT1405 works. XP8/10/12/20 available. Carbotech does not recommend the XP20 for our car on street tires. The pad will out-brake the tire. I am still waiting to hear about Hawk. But I know they have basically every compound option for the C7 Z06. I prefer Hawk, so right now the plan is DTC-60 for track, DTC-30 for AutoX and HPS for street. BTW - The dealership parts department couldn't even find a part# for OEM pads. Stock rotors (Front) MSRP for $674. Part# 23142500 (R) 23189768 (L) GMpartsdirect.com has them for $377.
__________________
2017 HBM SS 1LE
Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6 |
12-06-2016, 12:35 AM | #14 | |
Banned
Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 1,529
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
|
|