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Adrian09 · 01-14-2016, 03:46 AM

I've been having this problem since I got the car and it can be easily ignored but I need to know if something is actually wrong.

After shifting into first gear, the moment I take my foot off the gas my car starts to want to stall. It feels like it's desperately needing more gas so I either give it gas or press the clutch in. I usually just avoid this by going to second gear but it's not always convenient to go into second. I also have the same problem in second but it's not as bad. Do I have a problem or are camaros just too heavy and need a constant supply of gas in first gear?

Gonzo SS · 01-14-2016, 06:31 AM

I do not have that problem in my 2012 LS3. On level ground I can slowly let the clutch out and roll in 1st without giving it any gas.

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Olddudesrule · 01-14-2016, 07:16 AM

Is the car bucking if you let out the clutch and don't give it gas? I've had a few manuals that need a little pedal or they will buck and stall. Mainly was due to a low idle speed, not enough to overcome the drop in RPM when the clutch engaged, but since your's is also doing it sometimes in 2nd, I'm wondering if your clutch is slipping? Any known clutch issues prior to this?

AGM 1LE · 01-14-2016, 08:32 AM

what RPM is it doing that at?

xc_SS/RS · 01-14-2016, 01:22 PM

Well when you take your foot off the gas the engine is braking and slowing you down. In higher gears this isn't as noticeable since first gear is geared to be very short (more torque to get moving). So in first you usually will need to apply gas unless you are on flat ground and can roll along in first just using the engines idle speed.

So yes gas in first is necessary lol

blakjak55 · 01-14-2016, 01:28 PM

With 3.45's, you're almost always going to need gas. With the 3.91's, it'll still stall if you let the clutch out too quickly but it's quite a bit better.

crimsongtp · 01-14-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blakjak55

With 3.45's, you're almost always going to need gas. With the 3.91's, it'll still stall if you let the clutch out too quickly but it's quite a bit better.

This. I cant speak for the 3.45s but with 3.91 there are days I accidentally let it out too quickly (giggity) and it bogs a little. a bit touchy.

Adrian09 · 01-15-2016, 04:03 PM

For some reason I couldn't find this thread yesterday lol

If I'm in first and get up to around 10-15 mph and let go of the gas it will start to jerk. Even with a slight decline. It does it right below 2000 rpms. If it's closer to 1000 it does it more but at that point it's obvious that it's natural. I was just wondering because I got it used and it came with a borla exhaust and I was wondering if I need a tune. I have a 1LE btw so I have the 3.91 ratio.

1Coopgt · 01-15-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian09

For some reason I couldn't find this thread yesterday lol

If I'm in first and get up to around 10-15 mph and let go of the gas it will start to jerk. Even with a slight decline. It does it right below 2000 rpms. If it's closer to 1000 it does it more but at that point it's obvious that it's natural. I was just wondering because I got it used and it came with a borla exhaust and I was wondering if I need a tune. I have a 1LE btw so I have the 3.91 ratio.

It's normal .

AG1LE · 01-15-2016, 07:17 PM

A good tune can help calm that down

jwcassidy1969 · 01-16-2016, 09:59 PM

Did you buy the car new or used ? I have a cam in my 1le and you will need more gas if cammed hell I can't even run under 1200rpm without bucking in all gears. If you start bucking with out a cam you are definetly not giving it enough gas and may need some more practice using a clutch.

AGM 1LE · 01-16-2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jwcassidy1969

Did you buy the car new or used ? I have a cam in my 1le and you will need more gas if cammed hell I can't even run under 1200rpm without bucking in all gears. If you start bucking with out a cam you are definetly not giving it enough gas and may need some more practice using a clutch.

I hope one would be able to tell if a car is cammed lol. He said he got it used.

What OP is experiencing is normal. It can be worked around with practice. Just pop into 2nd and it will be much smoother

ChristianLS3 · 03-22-2016, 04:50 PM

Dude I thought I was the only one! Still haven't figured it out. I even told my tuner to hop in and do a street tune. Ofcourse, it didn't do it with him in the car. It does it all the time on regular driving. I get rid of it the same way as you do lol, either shifting to second or punching it.

01-14-2016, 03:46 AM	#1
Adrian09 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/1LE Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Irving Tx Posts: 49	First gear require gas at all times? I've been having this problem since I got the car and it can be easily ignored but I need to know if something is actually wrong. After shifting into first gear, the moment I take my foot off the gas my car starts to want to stall. It feels like it's desperately needing more gas so I either give it gas or press the clutch in. I usually just avoid this by going to second gear but it's not always convenient to go into second. I also have the same problem in second but it's not as bad. Do I have a problem or are camaros just too heavy and need a constant supply of gas in first gear?

01-14-2016, 06:31 AM	#2
Gonzo SS Drives: 2012 IBM 2SS/RS LS3/M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 354	I do not have that problem in my 2012 LS3. On level ground I can slowly let the clutch out and roll in 1st without giving it any gas. Sent from my LG-H811 using Tapatalk __________________ Stainless Power LT Headers, K&N Typhoon CAI, VMAX Ported Throttle Body, Jannetty Tune, Phastek Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocator, VTC Resonator Delete w/Flowmaster Super 10's, BMR Lowering Springs, Koni Orange Struts, Factory Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Skip Shift Eliminator, DRL & Halo Harness, Window Valet Scosche Kit w/Pioneer AVH-4100NEX, Lloyds Custom Mats, Blue LED Footwell Lighting

01-14-2016, 07:16 AM	#3
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Is the car bucking if you let out the clutch and don't give it gas? I've had a few manuals that need a little pedal or they will buck and stall. Mainly was due to a low idle speed, not enough to overcome the drop in RPM when the clutch engaged, but since your's is also doing it sometimes in 2nd, I'm wondering if your clutch is slipping? Any known clutch issues prior to this? __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

01-14-2016, 01:22 PM	#5
xc_SS/RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: somewhere in MD Posts: 4,883	Well when you take your foot off the gas the engine is braking and slowing you down. In higher gears this isn't as noticeable since first gear is geared to be very short (more torque to get moving). So in first you usually will need to apply gas unless you are on flat ground and can roll along in first just using the engines idle speed. So yes gas in first is necessary lol __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Z/28 intake, NW, FAST 102, speed engineering LT's, some exhaust, ATI -10% pulley, GM flex fuel injectors, DSX flex fuel sensor, MGW shifter, HP Tuners, some suspension work, stickers and a little weight loss. 12.63 @113.53

01-14-2016, 01:28 PM	#6
blakjak55 drinks virgil's Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Missouri Posts: 448	With 3.45's, you're almost always going to need gas. With the 3.91's, it'll still stall if you let the clutch out too quickly but it's quite a bit better. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 - CAI Intake - Borla Stinger - VTC - 3.91's Eibach Sways - LG ZR28's - BMR Springs - 285/35 Squared

01-14-2016, 08:32 AM	#4
AGM 1LE Drives: 14 SS/ 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: parts unknown Posts: 922	what RPM is it doing that at?

01-15-2016, 04:03 PM	#8
Adrian09 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/1LE Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Irving Tx Posts: 49	For some reason I couldn't find this thread yesterday lol If I'm in first and get up to around 10-15 mph and let go of the gas it will start to jerk. Even with a slight decline. It does it right below 2000 rpms. If it's closer to 1000 it does it more but at that point it's obvious that it's natural. I was just wondering because I got it used and it came with a borla exhaust and I was wondering if I need a tune. I have a 1LE btw so I have the 3.91 ratio.

01-15-2016, 07:17 PM	#10
AG1LE Drives: '14 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,435	A good tune can help calm that down

01-16-2016, 09:59 PM	#11
jwcassidy1969 Drives: 2018 red hot 1le Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Porter tx Posts: 76	Did you buy the car new or used ? I have a cam in my 1le and you will need more gas if cammed hell I can't even run under 1200rpm without bucking in all gears. If you start bucking with out a cam you are definetly not giving it enough gas and may need some more practice using a clutch.

03-22-2016, 04:50 PM	#13
ChristianLS3 Drives: 10' Camaro 2ss Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 53	Dude I thought I was the only one! Still haven't figured it out. I even told my tuner to hop in and do a street tune. Ofcourse, it didn't do it with him in the car. It does it all the time on regular driving. I get rid of it the same way as you do lol, either shifting to second or punching it.