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14’2SS · 12-29-2020, 04:45 PM

Hello ,
I have a 2014 SS Automatic.
I’m debating wether I should tune or just delete the AFM?
My only mod is a Borla Catback exhaust and the rest is stock.
Wondering if those that have gotten the tune on a stock car, was it worth it?
How much HP gain can I expect or what can I expect from the tune. Thanks in advance .

Omega · 12-29-2020, 04:53 PM

Disabling the DOD with a tune is not the same as removing it. With the tune, the potential problem is still there. You don't *need* a tune with basic mods but they give you that little extra oompf. The big difference will be in the trans tune, most people say that's why they are happy with the tune.

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14’2SS · 12-29-2020, 04:55 PM

I have guy that told me he can calibrate the AFM out of my car, should I not trust that?
He didn’t say tune it out but calibrate it out

Omega · 12-29-2020, 05:16 PM

He simply disables the feature. Its not the same as physically removing the problem lifters and associated hardware. Nothing wrong with doing so, but don't be fooled into thinking the problem has been solved.

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14’2SS · 12-29-2020, 05:38 PM

So what would you recommend to avoid that issue?
New lifters and cam package sort of thing?

Omega · 12-29-2020, 05:41 PM

Yup. How many miles are on the car? Based on the model year, I wouldn't be super concerned unless you plan on driving the car hard a lot/tracking/racing

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14’2SS · 12-29-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Yup. How many miles are on the car? Based on the model year, I wouldn't be super concerned unless you plan on driving the car hard a lot/tracking/racing

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It’s got 27k miles.
This is my daily . The AFM delete is just so that annoying sound goes away, nothing else.
No track or drag use in the future .

GodWentPunk · 01-03-2021, 01:24 AM

You could simply get a Range and disable the AFM for about $100 (used). I got a tune from Dyno Steve because I went with LTH so during that process, my AFM was disabled.

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14’2SS · 01-03-2021, 02:00 AM

I was thinking of doing e85 with a tune.
Anyone that has done this, is it worth it?

TheFlyingBananaSS · 01-03-2021, 08:30 AM

E85 won't do much on a stock engine. A boosted engine can see much bigger gains from it. If you are just around town playing with the car a dyno steve tune is the way to go. If you plan on tracking it or want more power, do a cam kit with new lifters. The obd disable device won't do nearly as much for the car that a dyno steve tune will.

Leo72793 · 01-03-2021, 08:51 AM

Is a tune worth it? Is the space pope reptilian?

While tuning doesnt get rid of the dod crap, IT does prolong the chances until it fails. I had mine tuned out at 37k and now i am at 755xx with proper oil maintanence and so far no issues, no metal flakes etc. I have a cam kit that will be going in and ill see how bad the damage could really be.

e85 will not really benefit a stock engine. e85 makes a difference on a built engine or boosted applications. Yes it will made a difference but nothing beneficial on a stock cam, stock exhaust stock engine.

BuddyLee · 01-03-2021, 08:51 AM

After reading different threads regarding tunes and simple mods I seem to be losing track. I run the 13 2SS/RS L99. Stock it will turn 13.2 but since my last trip to the track I added the cold air intake. I do not mind the AFM because it is related to fuel economy, is it not? I did pull the fuse in the trunk that allows the exhaust to remain open. As I understand it if I do a future mod then get a tune, otherwise no reason to?

Leo72793 · 01-03-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyLee

After reading different threads regarding tunes and simple mods I seem to be losing track. I run the 13 2SS/RS L99. Stock it will turn 13.2 but since my last trip to the track I added the cold air intake. I do not mind the AFM because it is related to fuel economy, is it not? I did pull the fuse in the trunk that allows the exhaust to remain open. As I understand it if I do a future mod then get a tune, otherwise no reason to?

the AFM or DOD as we call it is what fails. the lifters are not real lifters and when they fail they destroy the cam and send metal through the entire engine. i disabled it and actually got better fuel economy. we didnt buy a v8 for fuel economy.

BuddyLee · 01-03-2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo72793

the AFM or DOD as we call it is what fails. the lifters are not real lifters and when they fail they destroy the cam and send metal through the entire engine. i disabled it and actually got better fuel economy. we didnt buy a v8 for fuel economy.

There will be a thread somewhere that explains how to disable the AFM I suspect. My car with 101K miles is subject to this failure.

12-29-2020, 04:45 PM	#1
14’2SS Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 59	Is a Tune Worth It? Hello , I have a 2014 SS Automatic. I’m debating wether I should tune or just delete the AFM? My only mod is a Borla Catback exhaust and the rest is stock. Wondering if those that have gotten the tune on a stock car, was it worth it? How much HP gain can I expect or what can I expect from the tune. Thanks in advance .

01-03-2021, 01:24 AM	#8
GodWentPunk Drives: 2015 2SS White Convertible CE/INDY Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Lockport, IL Posts: 780 View My Garage	You could simply get a Range and disable the AFM for about $100 (used). I got a tune from Dyno Steve because I went with LTH so during that process, my AFM was disabled. joe... __________________ ARH LTH/HFC/Legato muffler, RDP Custom Tune, K&N Blackhawk CAI, Bigworm Blackout kit, ZL1 Rims, Phantom Grills, VMAX PTB

01-03-2021, 08:30 AM	#10
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	E85 won't do much on a stock engine. A boosted engine can see much bigger gains from it. If you are just around town playing with the car a dyno steve tune is the way to go. If you plan on tracking it or want more power, do a cam kit with new lifters. The obd disable device won't do nearly as much for the car that a dyno steve tune will. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

01-03-2021, 08:51 AM	#11
Leo72793 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,190	Is a tune worth it? Is the space pope reptilian? While tuning doesnt get rid of the dod crap, IT does prolong the chances until it fails. I had mine tuned out at 37k and now i am at 755xx with proper oil maintanence and so far no issues, no metal flakes etc. I have a cam kit that will be going in and ill see how bad the damage could really be. e85 will not really benefit a stock engine. e85 makes a difference on a built engine or boosted applications. Yes it will made a difference but nothing beneficial on a stock cam, stock exhaust stock engine. __________________ •2011 Camaro SS 2SS/RS A6 •MRR M017 1le Replica Wheels •Vararam Ram Air Intake •Speed Engineering Longtube Headers w/ Magnaflow HF Cats •Bo White PnP Stage 2 TB •GPI SS2 VVT Cam w Cometic thin gaskets 10.69 compression •Xpipe w/ Res Delete and NPP Exhaust •Tuned By Anonymous Calibrations •Gen5DIY Mylink Conversion W/ Backup Cam •Morel 3 way custom speakers, Infinity 860w Subwoofers in trunk baffle •Helix P6 6ch amp w/ 8ch DSP and P1 Sub amp

12-29-2020, 04:53 PM	#2
Omega Drives: G8 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 251	Disabling the DOD with a tune is not the same as removing it. With the tune, the potential problem is still there. You don't need a tune with basic mods but they give you that little extra oompf. The big difference will be in the trans tune, most people say that's why they are happy with the tune. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

12-29-2020, 04:55 PM	#3
14’2SS Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 59	I have guy that told me he can calibrate the AFM out of my car, should I not trust that? He didn’t say tune it out but calibrate it out

12-29-2020, 05:16 PM	#4
Omega Drives: G8 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 251	He simply disables the feature. Its not the same as physically removing the problem lifters and associated hardware. Nothing wrong with doing so, but don't be fooled into thinking the problem has been solved. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

12-29-2020, 05:38 PM	#5
14’2SS Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 59	So what would you recommend to avoid that issue? New lifters and cam package sort of thing?

12-29-2020, 05:41 PM	#6
Omega Drives: G8 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 251	Yup. How many miles are on the car? Based on the model year, I wouldn't be super concerned unless you plan on driving the car hard a lot/tracking/racing Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

01-03-2021, 02:00 AM	#9
14’2SS Drives: 2014 SS Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 59	I was thinking of doing e85 with a tune. Anyone that has done this, is it worth it?

01-03-2021, 08:51 AM	#12
BuddyLee Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 802	After reading different threads regarding tunes and simple mods I seem to be losing track. I run the 13 2SS/RS L99. Stock it will turn 13.2 but since my last trip to the track I added the cold air intake. I do not mind the AFM because it is related to fuel economy, is it not? I did pull the fuse in the trunk that allows the exhaust to remain open. As I understand it if I do a future mod then get a tune, otherwise no reason to?