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Old 10-14-2017, 03:01 PM   #29
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Mike, how would you raise our verts if you plan on using the open pinch welds for the bolt-ons since the secondary jack point is taken with frame supports?
MMMmmmm........... Valid point Mike........ To be honest, I had the car up on jack stands all last Winter - directly on the four pinch welds, with the rims /tires removed......Made me REALLY nervous, but all held well for the 4-months.

Changed it up this year, and bought "Flatstoppers" instead. I hate jacking this car up..........
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:52 PM   #30
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Mike, how would you raise our verts if you plan on using the open pinch welds for the bolt-ons since the secondary jack point is taken with frame supports?
I raise my vert using ZL1 addons lift points, and put jack stands under the steel x-braces.

Put the stand right at the very end of the x-brace where it bolts to the rocker, not further in along the brace which can cause the brace to flex and bend at the mounting bracket stressing the x-brace-bracket-weld.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:58 PM   #31
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I had my car on ZL1 Addons jackpoint for the past three days while I was waiting for a part. My Jack stands are similar to yours. No problem. They are steady and strong.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:16 PM   #32
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I raise my vert using ZL1 addons lift points, and put jack stands under the steel x-braces.

Put the stand right at the very end of the x-brace where it bolts to the rocker, not further in along the brace which can cause the brace to flex and bend at the mounting bracket stressing the x-brace-bracket-weld.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:26 PM   #33
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I am getting ready to change my wheels to MO17, found the ZL1 mag puck for gen6 doesn't work for my 2017 SS Vert. You have to buy the gen5 for the 2016-17 vert.
Those of you that use jack stands, do you lift from the pinch points and the jack stand fits along that weld or is there another place i can use my floor jack?
Forgot to ask, should I buy 2 sets or will the entire side of the car lift from the front pinch weld? I have no intention of using jack stands, just want my all season tires.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:45 PM   #34
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I am getting ready to change my wheels to MO17, found the ZL1 mag puck for gen6 doesn't work for my 2017 SS Vert. You have to buy the gen5 for the 2016-17 vert.
Those of you that use jack stands, do you lift from the pinch points and the jack stand fits along that weld or is there another place i can use my floor jack?
Forgot to ask, should I buy 2 sets or will the entire side of the car lift from the front pinch weld? I have no intention of using jack stands, just want my all season tires.
Assuming you have the same X-brace on the SS as the ZL1, there isn't enough room for both a jack at the pinch weld and a jack stand in the same forward pinch weld area, since the X-brace mounts take up the normal spot.

It will be obvious once you get under the car ... there's really only one pinch weld spot you can use near the front wheel to lift the entire side of the car.

The SS should be stiff enough to lift both wheels on one side with only one jack.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:55 PM   #35
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I am getting ready to change my wheels to MO17, found the ZL1 mag puck for gen6 doesn't work for my 2017 SS Vert. You have to buy the gen5 for the 2016-17 vert.
Those of you that use jack stands, do you lift from the pinch points and the jack stand fits along that weld or is there another place i can use my floor jack?
Forgot to ask, should I buy 2 sets or will the entire side of the car lift from the front pinch weld? I have no intention of using jack stands, just want my all season tires.
I used the MagPad Premium to lift my vert. It was a tight fit but it worked then I put the stand under the bolt from the X-brace as mentioned here. I have done it several times with not issues.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:58 PM   #36
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MMMmmmm........... Valid point Mike........ To be honest, I had the car up on jack stands all last Winter - directly on the four pinch welds, with the rims /tires removed......Made me REALLY nervous, but all held well for the 4-months.

Changed it up this year, and bought "Flatstoppers" instead. I hate jacking this car up..........
shouldnt let the suspension hang anyway. It weakens the bushings. rubber bushing twist with suspension movement. They are untwisted at ride height.
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:21 AM   #37
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shouldnt let the suspension hang anyway. It weakens the bushings. rubber bushing twist with suspension movement. They are untwisted at ride height.
I agree 100%......... That was the 2nd reason I choose not to do that again this Winter........
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:21 AM   #38
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shouldnt let the suspension hang anyway. It weakens the bushings. rubber bushing twist with suspension movement. They are untwisted at ride height.
1+ 100% agreed. Never let you car on stands over the winter.
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:24 PM   #39
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I've read far too many threads on jacking this afternoon!!

With my current car (g37 sedan), raising the front/rear is effortless. Floor jack under K member under the engine then jack stands with slotted pucks at the pinch welds. For the rear, same except floor jack goes under the diff. Simple, easy, effortless.

With the zl1/ss 1le this whole process is overly complicated. Some points indicate jacking under the diff is ok, others warn against it. Same with the front K member.

Using a floor jack to raise one side (front and rear wheels at the same time) doesn't really seem like the right way to do this.

So the question is, are there central safe points in the front and rear that can be used to raise 1/2 (front or rear) of the car at a time?
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Old 01-23-2018, 12:13 PM   #40
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I've read far too many threads on jacking this afternoon!!

With my current car (g37 sedan), raising the front/rear is effortless. Floor jack under K member under the engine then jack stands with slotted pucks at the pinch welds. For the rear, same except floor jack goes under the diff. Simple, easy, effortless.

With the zl1/ss 1le this whole process is overly complicated. Some points indicate jacking under the diff is ok, others warn against it. Same with the front K member.

Using a floor jack to raise one side (front and rear wheels at the same time) doesn't really seem like the right way to do this.

So the question is, are there central safe points in the front and rear that can be used to raise 1/2 (front or rear) of the car at a time?
You say that raising one side doesn't seem like the right way but it is. Use the center jacking point (of the three available) and lift one side. Put on jack stands. Then do the other side. Just make sure the jack stands don't start to pivot onto their inside "feet". If they do, readjust.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:25 PM   #41
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I posted a picture in this thread how these sit on the jack stands
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=21

I would have liked it if jack stand could fit under these in a T manner but they were pinching against the rocker panel.
I don't trust the setup if I need to work underneath the car so built a pair of wooden ramps.
I have the ZL1 things... was wondering about this too. My spider sense tells me the car could slide off the stand like this. Metal on metal and nothing to catch it if it slips except your bodywork... or your skull. Me no likey. I believe these pucks were developed for scissor lifts, not jack stands.
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:00 PM   #42
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Valid concern. I can see these zl1 protectors going on the middle position pinch weld (where a floor jack would be used), but not in between a jack stand and body. A slotted puck won't fit in between the jack stand and bodywork?

I made my own pucks a while back. Cut one puck in half then screwed both halves to a second puck with ~3/8" gap in between.

Still, with a rwd car there should be central options to use which lift the front or rear half of the vehicle. Even our honda accord has dedicated 'jack' points in the body. There's a protruding piece up front under and forward of the engine. For the rear they say to jack under the tow hook.
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