Shno's House of Z

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

I'm leaning toward the Z06. I had a great year and will buy the house in 2015 then look at getting a 2015 Z06 in the fall. I do agree the Z/28 deals are amazing!

^ I could see why you might go that direction.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

^ I could see why you might go that direction.

I've always been a Camaro guy never much into Corvettes, but the C7 Z06 is so cool!

[Dr Chill]

Was going to order a C7 Z06 but the bad publicity it is having with overheating issues and the ECU pulling timing when the motor heats up effectively killed it for me. Car should be fine for street use, but heat issues at the track made me pull the trigger on a Z/28 today. I almost bought a Viper at the beginning of the week as there are steals out there ($56,000 under original MSRP on the one I was negotiating) but the Z/28 still cost me $30,000 less.

[blessedhellride]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Ugh, if that is indeed the case then there will presumably not be a ZL1, other wise I have no idea what engine it would get. Also, if this is true I really do not like how they are not sticking with a specific identity and bouncing name plates around and going N/A to FI and back, etc. I feel like with the resurrection of the Camaro with the 5th gen. they should stick with the SS being the base V8 model, ZL1 being the supercharged variant with the Z/28 being the N/A track car. Even if the Camaro only gets the LT1 & LT4 you can give the Z/28 the LT1 but with a much more aggressive track set up (brakes, suspension, tire, etc) unless team Camaro is afraid of the the Z/28 being "downgraded" to 1LE status. Heck they don't need to offer a Z/28 again until they feel like they can really do something special. I rather they do that then dilute the name/image, kind of what they did with the Z/28s on the 4th gens..

Just my thoughts..

[Number 3]

Today, there is a unique engine for the 1LE, ZL1 and Z/28.

Either GM gets a new engine in that mix with the Gen 6 or they will have significant overlap.

Could simply be the 1LE becomes the base SS. The Z/28 is then the handling package on top of that and the ZL1 gets the LT4.

I don't believe that the Z/28 will be SC simply because the people that turned the Z28 into to ZL1 are still running the show for Camaro. It would be interesting to hear them both explain why it was important enough then but not now.

I still predict GM takes the LT1 and "massages" it to 500 or so HP and we have what we do today.

Would also make a nice Grand Sport engine.

But we have to wait and see.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Today, there is a unique engine for the 1LE, ZL1 and Z/28.

Either GM gets a new engine in that mix with the Gen 6 or they will have significant overlap.

Could simply be the 1LE becomes the base SS. The Z/28 is then the handling package on top of that and the ZL1 gets the LT4.

I don't believe that the Z/28 will be SC simply because the people that turned the Z28 into to ZL1 are still running the show for Camaro. It would be interesting to hear them both explain why it was important enough then but not now.

I still predict GM takes the LT1 and "massages" it to 500 or so HP and we have what we do today.

Would also make a nice Grand Sport engine.

But we have to wait and see.

^I'll agree with this. You can't go backward now. Obviously the public has reacted in a large way with the 5Gen, why change design and sales models now?

[Number 3]

Part of the issue, if that is the right word, is the 1LE has become a model rather than being looked at as a handling or track pack. It has a life of it's own now.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Part of the issue, if that is the right word, is the 1LE has become a model rather than being looked at as a handling or track pack. It has a life of it's own now.

It is well earned. What does the 1LE package look like if the 6th Gen comes with MRC and other handling tweaks? What is a 1LE in the 6th Gen?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Part of the issue, if that is the right word, is the 1LE has become a model rather than being looked at as a handling or track pack. It has a life of it's own now.

Yes, I see that as an opportunity.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

It is well earned. What does the 1LE package look like if the 6th Gen comes with MRC and other handling tweaks? What is a 1LE in the 6th Gen?

MRC, dry sump, 6 piston fronts, electronic limited slip rear diff, and the required super sticky tires that crack in temps under 40 degrees.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

MRC, dry sump, 6 piston fronts, electronic limited slip rear diff, and the required super sticky tires that crack in temps under 40 degrees.

I agree and add a slight HP bump, forged wheels and better aero.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

It is well earned. What does the 1LE package look like if the 6th Gen comes with MRC and other handling tweaks? What is a 1LE in the 6th Gen?

Dry sump LT1 with no AFM
7 speed manual
Aluminum drive shaft
3.91:1 rear end with Torsen LSD
6 pot front, 4 pot rear Brembos with two piece cast rotors.
Forged wheels wrapped in sticky tires
Full aero
Recaros
Alcantera steering wheel and shifter

[JusticePete]

Camaro Disciples, are you listening?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Camaro Disciples, are you listening?

What would you run suspension wise? I know a lot of people want MRC but I like how my 1LE rides now. Would you go MRC, monotube dampers or the DSSVs of the Z/28?